Would someone be kind enough to check this for me?

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In summary, the judge in a children's kite-flying contest used a weight hanger, slotted weights, and a protractor borrowed from their physics teacher to measure the string tensions of the kites. They explained their method to the children's parents in order to give them confidence in their evaluation technique. For part b), they set up a free body diagram and solved for the tensions of all three strings, using the given mass and angle. The judge also struggled to find a way to explain the process in a way that would make sense to a non-physics person.
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Here is the problem (It's a lot of explanation):

You are a judge in a children's kite-flying contest, and two children will win prizes for the kites that pull most strongly and least strongly on their strings. To measure string tensions, you borrow a weight hanger, some slotted weights, and a protractor from your physics teacher, and use the following protocol, illustrated in P4.20. Wait for a child to get her kite well controlled, hook the hanger onto the kite string about 30 cm from her hand, pile on weight until that section of string is horizontal, record the mass required, and record the angle between the horizontal and the string running up to the kite.

a) Explain how this method works. As you construct your explanation, imagine that the children's parents ask you about your method, that they might make false assumptions about your ability without concrete evidence, and that your explanation is an opportunity to give them confidence in your evaluation technique.

b) Find the string tension if the mass is 132 g and the angle of the kite string is 46.3 degrees.

Here is what I did:

MY WORK FOR PART B
I set up my free body diagram and find the x and y components of the string that is going up to the kite (I'm calling this tension T3, the tension of the weights as T1, and the horizontal string T2):

(Fnet)y=ma (a=0 cause its not moving, I'm assuming)
So, T3sin133.7-1.29 N = 0
T3=1.29N/sin133.7 = 1.78 N

Then I plugged T3 into my equation for (Fnet)x:

(Fnet)x=T3cos133.7-T2 = 0
T3cos133.7=T2
1.78Ncos133.7 = T2
-.1.23N = T2So, now I have the tensions of all 3 strings. The only part I'm not really sure about is the angle. Since it says the angle of 46.3 is between the horizontal string and the string going up to the kite, I assumed in order to find the x and y components of T2 I would have to do 180-46.3=133.7. However, for some reason, this seems like a really big kite angle to me and I want to say I'm doing it wrong.

I would love it if someone could tell me if I'm write or wrong about the angle, because I'm pretty sure I did the rest of the work correctly.

MY WORK FOR PART A
Unfortunately, I can't figure out a way to explain this. Obviously, I can grasp the concept since I was able to solve the problem with few worries. However, I can't find a way to write out exactly what I'm doing in sentences so it would make sense to the layperson.

The way I would like to explain it:

I added the weights to the strings in order to create an equilibrium force so that the place where the weights were added has no acceleration and then I used the mass of the weights to figure out the force it exerted in N (or the tension). Once, I found this force I was able to break up the string going up to the kite into x and y components to figure out the tension of of that string. Once I had figured out that tension, I was able to plug that into a physics equation to solve for the tension of the horizontal string.

However, this kind of sounds like crap to me and I don't know if it really would explain the process to someone who isn't in a physics class. Can anyone help me out with this?
 
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for a) find relationship between theta and the tension in the string. you can explain this by givin example of rope used to hang clothes, like how the angle is related to the load of the clothes...

and for b) I also got same thing.
 
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I would like to commend you on your thorough understanding of the problem and your accurate calculations. Your approach to solving the problem is correct, and your explanation is also accurate. However, I would suggest some minor clarifications to make it more understandable to non-scientists.

Firstly, you are correct in your assumption that the angle of 46.3 degrees is between the horizontal string and the string going up to the kite. This is because the angle between the horizontal and the string running up to the kite is always equal to the angle between the weight hanger and the string, which is 46.3 degrees in this case.

To explain the method, you can start by mentioning that you are using a weight hanger and slotted weights to measure the tension in the kite string. This is a common method used in physics to measure forces. Then, you can explain that by adding weights to the string, you are creating an equilibrium force, which means that the string is not moving and has no acceleration. This allows you to measure the tension in the string accurately.

Next, you can mention that the mass of the weights added to the string can be used to calculate the force exerted by the weights, which is the same as the tension in the string. This is because of the relationship between mass, force, and acceleration (F=ma). Therefore, by adding weights until the string is horizontal, you are able to determine the tension in the string.

Finally, you can explain that by using the angle between the horizontal and the string going up to the kite, you can break the tension force into its x and y components, which allows you to calculate the tension in the horizontal string. This is done using trigonometric equations, as you have correctly shown in your calculations.

Overall, your explanation is clear and accurate, and with these minor clarifications, it would be easily understandable to non-scientists. Keep up the good work!
 

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