Solve x^3 -x -x^3=0 Puzzle: Is x=0 the Answer?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical equation x^3 - x - x^3 = 0, leading to the conclusion that x = 0. When attempting to simplify by dividing both sides by x, the equation transforms into x^2 - 1 - x^2 = 0, which becomes problematic since division by zero is undefined. Participants highlight that this manipulation leads to the erroneous statement -1 = 0, which is not a valid mathematical conclusion. The conversation emphasizes the importance of adhering to mathematical rules, particularly the prohibition against dividing by zero, and clarifies that just because an equation can be written does not mean it is true or valid. The core issue is the misunderstanding of the implications of division by zero and the resulting undefined expressions.
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This a puzzle for me.

x^3 -x -x^3=0 Obviously x=0
but, divide both sides by x

x^2 -1 -x^2=0 except for when x=0 'cause undefined
but that means
-1=0

is this apparent conflict not in fact one because you can't rule out x=0 ?
 
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regor60 said:
This a puzzle for me.
x^2 -1 -x^2=0 except for when x=0 'cause undefined
but that means
-1=0
QUOTE]

Hmm looks to me like you would have
-1 = 0/x
But x = 0 so you have
-1 = 0/0
0/0 is undefined.

-1 = undefined is not well formed equation.
Any know better mathematical terminology for 0/0?
 
x^3 - x - x^3 = 0 then divide by x:

\frac{x^3 - x - x^3}{x} = \frac{0}{x}

x^2 - x^2 = 1

Even saying that \frac{0}{x} is 0 you should see that it is not possible to get two different numbers to make 1 when the two x values will give the same to take away.

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I thought that -1=0 is not a statement of equality, but more of a qualifier for the original equation. We want to know when say, x^2 - x^2 == 1, and that will only happen when 0 = 1, which is never. So that has no solution. I thought this meaning was always implied in mathematics. I mean I can say
1 + 1 =5, but how can that be?! I mean I just wrote it, but its not supposed to be possible! Just becasue yo ucan write down an equation doesn't mean its true.
 
regor60 said:
This a puzzle for me.

x^3 -x -x^3=0 Obviously x=0
but, divide both sides by x

x^2 -1 -x^2=0 except for when x=0 'cause undefined
but that means
-1=0

is this apparent conflict not in fact one because you can't rule out x=0 ?

You are simply breaking the rule of "not dividing by zero".
You could state your "problem" simpler:
x = 0
divide both sides by x
x/x = 0/x <-> 1 = 0
 
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