X-ray tube Questions - Accelerating electrons, Why X-rays

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The discussion revolves around the production of X-rays in X-ray tubes, addressing questions about the nature of X-rays, the mechanisms of their emission during electron acceleration and collision with the anode, and the relationship between electron acceleration and electromagnetic wave emission.

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that X-rays can be understood as both electromagnetic waves and photons, referencing wave-particle duality.
  • There is a question about why X-rays are emitted specifically upon collision with the anode rather than during electron acceleration, with some participants suggesting that the frequency of emitted radiation depends on the acceleration of the electrons.
  • One participant argues that while electrons do emit electromagnetic waves during acceleration, the magnitude of this emission is much lower compared to the emission that occurs upon impact with the anode.
  • Another participant notes that the acceleration experienced by electrons in the electric field is negligible compared to the acceleration during the collision with the anode, which is when significant X-ray emission occurs.
  • Links to external resources and animations are shared to illustrate the concepts being discussed, particularly regarding the behavior of electromagnetic fields during electron acceleration and impact.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms of X-ray production, particularly regarding the timing and nature of electromagnetic wave emission. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on interpretations of electromagnetic theory and the specifics of electron behavior in X-ray tubes, which may not be fully addressed in the discussion.

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Hey guys,

I have a couple of questions regarding X-rays and how they are produced.

1) Is an X-ray an electromagnetic wave or a photon?

2) Why is it that when the electrons collide with the anode in an x-ray tube, X-rays are emitted and not any other electromagnetic wave/photon?

3) When the electrons are being accelerated from cathode to the anode by the potential difference applied across the X-ray tube, how come they don't emit an electromagnetic wave? According to maxwells theory of electromagnetism, electromagnetic waves are emitted when an electron is accelerating. And isn't this how electrons emit electromagnetic waves in antennas? So how come these ones dont?

Thanks
 
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kirollos said:
Hey guys,

I have a couple of questions regarding X-rays and how they are produced.

1) Is an X-ray an electromagnetic wave or a photon?

Yes.

(Remember that visible light is a photon _and_ a transverse eletromagnetic wave, depending on how you measure it. The same is true for other rays. An x-ray is made of photons, and, therefore, is an e-m wave.)

kirollos said:
2) Why is it that when the electrons collide with the anode in an x-ray tube, X-rays are emitted and not any other electromagnetic wave/photon?

It is difficult to answer these types of questions without access to the Internets.

[See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray]

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Apparently, Roentgen had to put cardboard around his cathode ray tube and paint the screen opaque in order to conceal the other electromagnetic radiation that was visible. In fact, the X-rays are visible to the dark-adjusted naked eye if the energy level is sufficient.


kirollos said:
3) When the electrons are being accelerated from cathode to the anode by the potential difference applied across the X-ray tube, how come they don't emit an electromagnetic wave? According to maxwells theory of electromagnetism, electromagnetic waves are emitted when an electron is accelerating. And isn't this how electrons emit electromagnetic waves in antennas? So how come these ones dont?

I sorry that I don't know why you claim they don't get emitted. This is exactly how the X (or "unknown") particle/wave is emitted for diagnostic imaging. But visible light and many other wavelengths of radiation do not go through solid objects, such as skulls or mamary glands.



Cheers,
Mesmer8
 
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Hey, thanks for the answer.

With question 3), the X-rays get emitted when they collide with anode, wright? Not when they are being accelerated as far as i have been taught. If it is emitted while they are being accelerated, then how come they need to collide the electrons with the anode and all that?

Thanks :)
 
kirollos said:
1) Is an X-ray an electromagnetic wave or a photon?
Both models can be applied here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave–particle_duality

kirollos said:
2) Why is it that when the electrons collide with the anode in an x-ray tube, X-rays are emitted and not any other electromagnetic wave/photon?
The frequency of emitted radiation depends on the acceleration. If they would hit the anode at lower speed, they would emit lower frequencies.

kirollos said:
3) When the electrons are being accelerated from cathode to the anode by the potential difference applied across the X-ray tube, how come they don't emit an electromagnetic wave?
They do, but the magnitude of acceleration is much lower here, compared to when they hit the anode. So it is a much lower frequency, not X-rays.

If found a nice animation on this here:
http://www.tapir.caltech.edu/~teviet/Waves/empulse.html

field_a.gif


This is what happens with the E-field when an electron suddenly starts moving, with short period of large acceleration. As you see high frequency (short wave length) radiation goes mostly perpendicular to the direction of acceleration.

In the X-ray tube the acceleration by the field is negligible compared to the acceleration on anode impact. So the animation above shows approximately what happens in the initial rest frame of the electron during anode impact (anode comes from the right and hits the electron). In reality, due to the acceleration by the field, the lines would be slightly bend initially. But the X-ray is the sharp distortion of the filed lines, emitted on impact.

Here more nice diagrams:
http://physics.tamuk.edu/~suson/html/4323/photons.html#Electromagnetic Radiation from Charge
 
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WOW! Thanks guys, youre awesomne. All my questions were answered!
 

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