Young gas giants fly close to their suns

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of young gas giants, specifically "hot Jupiters," which orbit very close to their host stars. Participants explore the formation and migration processes of these planets, as well as the implications for planetary systems and the survival of other planets during migration.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that hot Jupiters can form and migrate towards their stars in a few million years, raising questions about their formation processes.
  • There is discussion about the proximity of these gas giants to their stars, with one participant highlighting that some can be much closer than Mercury, citing TrES-3b as an example.
  • Participants express curiosity about the oddity of gas giants forming so close to their stars, suggesting that they likely form further away and migrate inward.
  • One participant raises questions about the diversity of planetary systems, pondering whether the formation of hot Jupiters is a rare occurrence and what happens to other planets during the migration process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement, particularly regarding the formation and migration processes of hot Jupiters, with no consensus reached on the rarity of their formation or the fate of other planets in such systems.

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Some assumptions regarding the formation processes of gas giants and the dynamics of planetary migration remain unresolved, and the discussion reflects varying perspectives on these topics.

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Young gas giants fly close to their suns

Hot Jupiters, giant Jupiter-like exoplanets that orbit 20 times closer to their host stars than the Earth does to the Sun, can form and migrate towards their infant stars in as little as a few million years, researchers at the University of St Andrews have discovered.

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So that would be like as close as Mercury? Is it odd that they are gas planets?
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
So that would be like as close as Mercury?

Closer than Mercury. MUCH closer in some cases. TrES-3b, a gas giant around the star GSC 03089-00929, has an orbital radius of just 0.0226 AU, which is about 17 times closer to its star than Mercury is from the sun.

Is it odd that they are gas planets?

Indeed. They shouldn't be able to form that closely to their stars, which is why it is believed that they form further away and end up migrating through orbital interactions.
 
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I think you lost a "not" Drakkith.

There are so many different types of planetary systems - some have hot Jupiters, most have not. It leads to the question where the difference comes from. Is the formation of them a rare process? Do most hot Jupiters fall into the star and disappear?
I guess other planets would have a hard time surviving such a migration process, so looking for planets orbiting outside of hot Jupiters sounds interesting.
 
mfb said:
I think you lost a "not" Drakkith.

Corrected. :wink:
 

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