Young's double slit experiment -- Question about this wavefront diagram

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of wavefront diagrams in the context of Young's double slit experiment, specifically addressing whether the blue waves depicted are resulting waves from interference or individual wavelets as per Huygens' principle. The scope includes conceptual clarification and technical explanation of wave behavior in interference patterns.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the blue waves from sources S1 and S2 represent resulting waves from interference or individual wavelets.
  • Another participant suggests that the diagram's clarity is uncertain and asks for more specifics about the confusion.
  • A different participant explains that in high school physics, S1 and S2 are treated as either wavelets or sources, and notes the presence of both single slit and double slit effects in the interference pattern.
  • One participant clarifies that the blue lines in the diagram represent wavefronts and that while every point can be considered an emitter of wavelets, the diagram does not explicitly show them.
  • Another participant elaborates on Huygens' principle, stating that it allows for the representation of wavefronts by secondary wavelets, emphasizing that these wavelets are a calculational tool rather than physical entities. They also discuss the implications of slit width on the interference pattern.
  • Concerns are raised about the balance between slit width for brightness and maintaining the visibility of side fringes in the interference pattern.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the wavefronts and the role of wavelets, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the nature of wavelets and the effects of slit width on the interference pattern, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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Wavelets or resulting waves?
Hello, I have a question about the blue waves coming from sources S1 and S2 in de next picture.

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The blue waves from sources S1 and S2, are those two resulting waves (interference of all wavelets, Huygens Principle) or are those blue waves two wavelets?
 
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I'm not sure what your question is. What's not clear from the diagram?
 
If this is high school (or elementary college ) physics...

The waves S1 and S2 are treated as two wavelets or two sources.

We use Huygens theory to explain why we get interference from a single source or single slit.

However, if fact, if you look closely at the double slit pattern, you will see that in fact, it's a double slit pattern superimposed on a single slit pattern, so in fact the two effects are present - each slit acting as a single slit according to Huygens, but then with interference between the two slits on top of that.
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The blue lines on the diagram are just the wavefronts of the waves from each slit. Sure, you can think of every point between the edges of the slit as an emitter of wavelets (as you can every point on an existing wavefront), and each wavefront results from the overlap of lots of individual wavelets. That's how Huygens explained diffraction anyway.

But no, that diagram doesn't show any wavelets explicitly. You don't need them to do any analysis :wink:
 
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Huygens principle says that you can represent any wave front by an infinite number of secondary wavelets, placed along the front. That's the fundamental principle behind Diffraction theory; the wavelets are not 'real', they're just an aid to calculation - just like all calculations which involve integration. The basic Young's Interference from two slits treats each slit as just one wavelet. This is ok for predicting the positions of the peaks and troughs of the interference pattern near the boresight. But a slit of finite width will not have the isotropic pattern of a single wavelet so, if you want to predict the actual pattern, you need to take the pattern of a finite width slit. When the slits (or a number off slits) are identical, the overall pattern is the pattern of one slit multiplied by the interference pattern of the idealised point sources. See those images further up. Very wide slits send most of the light in the forward direction which swamps the visibility of the side peaks.

In practice, there's a compromise between having slits that are wide enough to get a bright pattern but not so wide that the brightness of the side fringes drops off so that you lose the pattern.
 
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