Search of the Use of Words in Web

[mech-eng]

I would like to ask you about search of the use of the words in Google or other search engines. For example if I want to search how "explain" and" idea" are getting together, how can I search this?

if I write just explain idea in Google there is one in some results but not another. For example one result is "From the fact that a given idea." here as you see there is not explain or explained.

What about trying (explain | explained) idea ?

Thank you.

 

[BvU]

Use double quotes: "explain idea"

It used to be that a + sign before a word expressed the required presence of that word, don't know if that's still the case.

 

[jedishrfu]

Here's some tips on using Google to search for things of interest:

http://motto.time.com/4116259/google-search/

and from Google itself:

https://www.google.com/intl/en_us/insidesearch/tipstricks/all.html

 

[mech-eng]

There is a strange behavior in Google. When going from page 20 to 21 Google goes back to page 15 and shows just 15 pages. Is something wrong?

Here Google is at page 20 https://www.google.com.tr/#q="doctor+who"+"sherlock+holmes"&start=181

Thank you.

 

[DrClaude]

There is a strange behavior in Google. When going from page 20 to 21 Google goes back to page 15 and shows just 15 pages. Is something wrong?

Here Google is at page 20 https://www.google.com.tr/#q="doctor+who"+"sherlock+holmes"&start=181

Thank you.

Works fine for me.

 

[BvU]

Not in my Chrome browser. perhaps you have a different number of results per page ?

Here's some tips on using Google to search for things of interest:
http://motto.time.com/4116259/google-search/
and from Google itself:
https://www.google.com/intl/en_us/insidesearch/tipstricks/all.html

Good to see the double quotes are still there (and seem to have usurped the + sign functionality. the - sign can be useful too.

 

[mech-eng]

Works fine for me.

Can you go from 20 to 21 ? Why cannot I ? Because of country difference?

Thank you.

 

[mech-eng]

Not in my Chrome browser. perhaps you have a different number of results per page ?

Good to see the double quotes are still there (and seem to have usurped the + sign functionality. the - sign can be useful too.

There are 10 results in each page but isn't going back to 15 still a strange behavior when somebody going from 20 to 21 ?

Thank you.

 

[jedishrfu]

Can you go from 20 to 21 ? Why cannot I ? Because of country difference?

Thank you.

It could be. I was able to jump to the next page and the next after that without issue.

I used this version of your search string replacing "google.com.tr" with "google.com"

 

[DrClaude]

Can you go from 20 to 21 ? Why cannot I ? Because of country difference?

I clicked on the link you gave, therefore I ended up on Google Turkey. I guess you need to clear you cache or something.

 

[jedishrfu]

I clicked on the link you gave, therefore I ended up on Google Turkey. I guess you need to clear you cache or something.

The posters query references google.com.tr explicitly.

 

[BvU]

There's definitely something the matter with this website. When I return to p 20 after paging forward to 31 (nonexisting now and then), I get a different list.

 

[jedishrfu]

There may be country filtering going on. In China for example, sometimes searches just fail because the page about to be displayed has something controversial on it.

I remember my niece running into trouble when trying to pull up the cornell.edu website in China to apply for college. She would get connection resets because the home page of Cornell had an article about a former student and now Taiwan politician would be visiting the university to give a talk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_China

 

[cosmik debris]

https://books.google.com/ngrams is a great place to search for the occurrence of words.

 

[mech-eng]

https://books.google.com/ngrams is a great place to search for the occurrence of words.

I am not directly interested in their occurance actually but instead interested in how they are used and with what words they collocate. I do not know exactly but I think ngram just gives a graph of use frequency.

Thank you.

 

[mech-eng]

Can the character "|" used in Google?

Thank you.

 

[jedishrfu]

I did a simple experiment and it seemed to work

Try Rock | Hudson vs Rock Hudson

The search results are different with Rock Hudson coming up first and then a rock reference and then a Hudson reference.

 

[mech-eng]

But for the search, would "|" and "OR" be the same? If it is the same with "OR", then In what situations can | be used so that it will be helpful for the search?

Thank you.

 

[jedishrfu]

I think the or would be interpreted as a word to search on whereas the vertical bar operator is a metacharacter that would be interpreted as the logical or unless it was quoted.

 

[mech-eng]

I did a simple experiment and it seemed to work

Try Rock | Hudson vs Rock Hudson

The search results are different with Rock Hudson coming up first and then a rock reference and then a Hudson reference.

I am almost sure that your experiment is not enough so it does not work. Look at these searches:

https://www.google.com.tr/search?dc......0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..26.0.0...0.IkFVX9q_rVIhttps://www.google.com.tr/search?dc...0...0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0...0.j8OoubITd-khttps://www.google.com.tr/search?dc...0...0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..3.0.0...0.5A3NYLJpt4E

Thank you.

 

[jack action]

I would like to ask you about search of the use of the words in Google or other search engines. For example if I want to search how "explain" and" idea" are getting together, how can I search this?

if I write just explain idea in Google there is one in some results but not another. For example one result is "From the fact that a given idea." here as you see there is not explain or explained.

If you use Google advanced search, on the first line it specifies: «Find pages with ... all these words:» which should give you the results you want (including all declinations of the words like explained or explaining). But this is the «ordinary» way of doing a search, i.e. just writing a set of words in the query. For me, it returned only pages with both explain and idea, except for Wikipedia pages that only referred idea because, basically, the pages "explain" what idea means.

You can also look at this Google support page to find a few extra tricks on how to refine your searches.