Solve the simultaneous equations

In summary, the two equations that solve for x and y in terms of each other are y = 2.58 and x = 2.5862.
  • #1
chwala
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Homework Statement
##2^{x+y}=6^y##

##3^x=6(2^y)##
Relevant Equations
simultaneous equations
##2^{x+y+1}##=##3^{x+y-1}##
##\frac {x+y+1}{x+y-1}##=##\frac {log 3}{log 2}##
this is where i reached, i just got this problem from my old notes, i do not think we can solve this...
 
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  • #2
chwala said:
Homework Statement:: ##2^{x+y}=6^y##

##3^x=6.2^y##
Relevant Equations:: simultaneous equations

##2^{x+y+1}##=##3^{x+y-1}##
##\frac {x+y+1}{x+y-1}##=##\frac {log 3}{log 2}##
this is where i reached, i just got this problem from my old notes, i do not think we can solve this...
Take the log (in whatever is your favorite log base) of both sides of each equation.
 
  • #3
alternatively,
##2^\frac {x+y}{y}##=##6##
##2^\frac {x+y}{y}##=##\frac{3^x}{2^y}##
##2^{x+y}=3^x##
##(x+y) log 2##= ##xlog 3##
on simplifying this i end up with,
##0.5849x=y##
 
  • #4
Mark44 said:
Take the log (in whatever is your favorite log base) of both sides of each equation.
ok, but will still need to express ##x## in terms of ##y##...right, just check my subsequent working on this...
 
  • #5
Once you have solved for x in terms of y or y in terms of x, just substitute in the other equation.
 
  • #6
ok, i get
##3^x=6.2^y##
##xlog 3= log 6+0.5849x log 2##
##0.477x=0.778+0.176x##
##0.477x-0.176x=0.778##
##0.301x=0.778##
##x=2.58##
is this correct? actually i am trying to prove the values i.e
##x=2.5862##
##y=1.5142##
and i can see that these values do not approximate the first equation of the problem...
but interestingly, they satisfy the equation,
##2^{x+y}=3^x## which follows from the original problem...
 
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  • #7
[tex] x\log(3) = y\log(6.2)[/tex]
[tex] (x+y)\log(2)= x\log(3)[/tex]

now solve for y in the first equation and substitute into the second and solve for x.
 
  • #8
I think I already did that...check my posts...
 
  • #9
What i meant in post ##6##, is that the values of ##x## and ##y## do not satisfy the original equation, ##2^{x+y}##=##6^y##, but satisfy the other equation ##2^{x+y}=3^x##, that follows from the original problem. I hope I am clear...
 
  • #10
chwala said:
ok, i get
##3^x=6.2^y##
##xlog 3= log 6+0.5849x log 2##
I can't tell what you did in the equation above.
If ##3^x = 6.2^y##, then ##x \ln(3) = y \ln(6.2)##
chwala said:
##0.477x=0.778+0.176x##
##0.477x-0.176x=0.778##
##0.301x=0.778##
##x=2.58##
is this correct? actually i am trying to prove the values i.e
##x=2.5862##
##y=1.5142##
Where did these values come from?
If they don't satisfy both equations, they are not a solution to the system of equations.
chwala said:
and i can see that these values do not approximate the first equation of the problem...
but interestingly, they satisfy the equation,
##2^{x+y}=3^x## which follows from the original problem...
It's really irrelevant that they happen to satisfy only one of the equations. Since it is an equation in two unknowns, there are an infinite number of pairs of numbers that satisfy it.

For the record, I get y = 0 and x = 0, which satisfy both equations.
 
  • #11
Sorry Mark, that equation is supposed to be ##3^x##=## 6 ##times ## 2^y## and not ##6.2^y##
 
  • #12
allow me to amend the original equation...:cool:
 
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