The island is big and wooded in parts, How do they survive?

[wolram]

Hypatia one male telling us everything we have.

and what we have not

 

[Danger]

I made a really nice necklace for Moonbear out of the teeth of that crocodile Danger was playing with earlier.

Speaking of which, did you run across my wristwatch anywhere?
That's a mighty fine map, Woolie. Great thanks to Kia. Will she be joining us? We still have a crappy male:female ratio here. As for your custard, and anybody who likes yogurt ( :yuck: ), you're welcome to try milking a wild sow but don't come crying to me when you get gored. (Come to think of it, maybe I can put together a squeeze-chute like they use for branding... Astro, think you can subdue a lactating sow?)
Crossbow trap report: I hadn't considered more than one boar tripping it at the same time. We have one dead on the spot, and one made it fifty metres back up the trail before expiring. The third bugger went crashing of into the jungle with one of my quarrels! Am adding 3 metres of aircraft cable to each of the remaining ones to prevent that from happening again. :grumpy: Hypatia, if you have a travois ready, we have 2 pigs to drag home.
Don't know why I didn't think of it before, but we might as well use 3 of the superchargers as water pumps. There's no need for more than 1 air compressor (if we even need 1). If the cooks desire, I can serrate the rotors in one of them to make a food processor.
No-go on the radio from my end, I'm afraid. I know nothing about electronics. If you need a component built, I might be able to do it if you give me specs.

 

[Lisa!]

What happened to our ship?

 

[Danger]

What happened to our ship?

Good question! I didn't even think of that. Is it within salvage range? With some proper aircraft bits and leather/tree gum seals, along with one of the superchargers, I can build a diving bell.

 

[wolram]

What happened to our ship?

It went down as it sailed into a clathate eruption, we were the lucky ones
as we were by the pool swimming and having a good time, the other poor
souls never had a chance.

 

[wolram]

That's a mighty fine map, Woolie. Great thanks to Kia. Will she be joining us? We still have a crappy male:female ratio here. As for your custard, and anybody who likes yogurt ( :yuck: ), you're welcome to try milking a wild sow but don't come crying to me when you get gored. (Come to think of it, maybe I can put together a squeeze-chute like they use for branding... Astro, think you can subdue a lactating sow?)
Crossbow trap report: I hadn't considered more than one boar tripping it at the same time. We have one dead on the spot, and one made it fifty metres back up the trail before expiring. The third bugger went crashing of into the jungle with one of my quarrels! Am adding 3 metres of aircraft cable to each of the remaining ones to prevent that from happening again. :grumpy: Hypatia, if you have a travois ready, we have 2 pigs to drag home.
Don't know why I didn't think of it before, but we might as well use 3 of the superchargers as water pumps. There's no need for more than 1 air compressor (if we even need 1). If the cooks desire, I can serrate the rotors in one of them to make a food processor.

Good going Danger, two boars to feast on, yummmmy.
I have some experience with pigs, my uncle used to keep some in his
orchard, and one of them was a nasty cuss, it had me in the c___p a few
times, but i learned to whack it up the hooter.
I never tried milking one, they are a bit low to the ground, how would you
get a bucket under it?

 

[wolram]

Some sugestions for island features.
Moon river, Danger cove, Hypatias stone, Brewies drop, Astros glen,
Bear peak, Danger point, Smurf wood, Lisas mount.

 

[*Kia*]

Some sugestions for island features.
Moon river, Danger cove, Hypatias stone, Brewies drop, Astros glen,
Bear peak, Danger point, Smurf wood, Lisas mount.

Oh my so anyways wolram you need to be checking now on accomdation...

 

[wolram]

Oh my so anyways wolram you need to be checking now on accomdation...

Hi babs,you know that thing we talked about, well it would may be kick start the building

 

[Astronuc]

Astro, think you can subdue a lactating sow?

Yeah - I can manage that. We'll rope the cargo net across the trail where the sow and piglets go to the water hole. I'll drop from a tree, grab a piglet or two, and run like the wind. I'll get her to chase me, just out of reach, to the net. I jump the net, and as soon as she hits it, net goes up, and we have sow.

I suppose we'll need a crate for the sow, and some wheels, or two strong branches and four people to carry the crate. Then we round up piglets and put them in a pen.

*Meanwhile, Danger and I retrieve the dead boars*

Time for a luau.

So, Wooly, any idea what happened to the boat and how far off-shore she went down. Based on this being a volcanic island, the slopes off-shore is bound to be steep. Perhaps the ship hit an unmarked reef or shoal. She may in severl meters to 100 m depending on what the currents were doing at the time.

As soon as we get a dugout finished (and assuming we aren't out of here by then), we out to go see if we can find the ship and retrieve some equipment - and maybe some fuel oil.

We ought to get up to the north and see if there are cliffs. If so, may be some birds eggs are available.

 

[Moonbear]

Danger, I've worked with those squeeze chutes, so I can help you with the design. Hmm...if those still fumes work as an anesthetic, we could trim back and blunt off that sow's tusks. Once we've got her, I don't think we'll be letting her go. When the piglets are weaned and she's no longer lactating, she'll be dinner. No point in having to catch her twice. Actually, the best thing to use will be a drop-floor "crush"...V-shaped with a ramp leading up to it (we'd have to get her into an enclosed area first, then chase her up the ramp). The floor is hinged and when she runs in, you pull a lever and the floor drops out and is suspended in the v-shape. Then I can easily get in from the side and milk her. Once she's milked, just release the sides, she slides to the floor and runs off to the pen again (just make sure there are barriers so she can't run my way when she drops out!).

That, or we might just be able to rig up some sort of milking stand to tie her up with a halter up high enough to get under. I'd still rather be able to get some sort of caps on her tusks so she can't gore anyone.

 

[hypatia]

wow look at all this meat! I wonder if you can salt cure bacon by dipping in the ocean over and over again? or maybe we can find some salt build up along the rocks. We can dry some it, like jerky.

 

[Moonbear]

wow look at all this meat! I wonder if you can salt cure bacon by dipping in the ocean over and over again? or maybe we can find some salt build up along the rocks. We can dry some it, like jerky.

Yeah, I was wondering if we could extract salt from ocean water in any sufficient quantity for salting the meat.

 

[wolram]

Astro.

So, Wooly, any idea what happened to the boat and how far off-shore she went down. Based on this being a volcanic island, the slopes off-shore is bound to be steep. Perhaps the ship hit an unmarked reef or shoal. She may in severl meters to 100 m depending on what the currents were doing at the time.

The ship ran into a clathate eruption and sank in minutes, we were lucky to
get out and find a life boat afloat, we drifted all day and hoped to get a star
fix at night, but we were unlucky as the sky was overcast, in the morning
we chatted about what to do and decided to row north, Astro pointing the
way, again we were lucky after six hours rowing we landed on this isle.

 

[Danger]

Oh my so anyways wolram you need to be checking now on accomdation...

So glad that you've joined us, my dear. The male:female ratio is improving. That's a great overall map. Would you perchance be able to draw in the locations of the wreckage, our main water supply, the boar-watering hole, etc.? If not, PM or e-mail me the details in print and I'll do it here. (I have a PF e-mail under my username.)

if those still fumes work as an anesthetic, we could trim back and blunt off that sow's tusks.

Hmmm... I hadn't thought of that. I thought that only the boars had tusks. When I referenced getting gored trying to milk one, I was thinking of the males protecting her.

When the piglets are weaned and she's no longer lactating, she'll be dinner.

Wouldn't a sow be like a cow, or the Milkmaid from porn movies, whereas if you keep milking her regularly she will continue to lactate regardless of piglets?

Yeah, I was wondering if we could extract salt from ocean water in any sufficient quantity for salting the meat.

Initially, we should just be able to chip deposited salt off of the rocks at low tide. If not, it's just a matter of evaporating the water and collecting the salt in the dish that the water was in. It won't be pure sodium chloride, but nothing in it will be harmful. The one thing to watch out for in that regard is iodine deficiency, so that will be up to you and Hypatia (spinach?). Also, make sure we have a regular vitamin C supply. I suggest margeuritas.

 

[wolram]

Danger

So glad that you've joined us, my dear. The male:female ratio is improving. That's a great overall map. Would you perchance be able to draw in the locations of the wreckage, our main water supply, the boar-watering hole, etc.?

You may not be so lucky, Kia can be a hard task master.

 

[Astronuc]

The ship ran into a clathate eruption and sank in minutes, we were lucky to get out and find a life boat afloat, we drifted all day and hoped to get a star fix at night, but we were unlucky as the sky was overcast, in the morning we chatted about what to do and decided to row north, Astro pointing the way, again we were lucky after six hours rowing we landed on this isle.

And you guys listened to me? If we rowed 2-3 miles/hr, and with some current, the ship is probably about 12-18 miles away, and in about several 100 m (or maybe up to 4 km) of water.

So we have a lifeboat?! And it presumably fits up to 20 people, and has a first aid kit? or did you leave out something like - it sank on the reef, and we had to swim for it, and we are lucky to be alive?

 

[wolram]

Oh by the way, the life boat was smashed to bit on a reef, we were lucky
though no one was lost

 

[*Kia*]

I've been hard at work, drawing our map in the sand, to work out just where we are.

Legend:

X - Original point of contact with island.
1 - Original shipwreck
2 - Site of life boat wreckage
3 - Reef which runs all the way around island - very very sharp drop off point
4 - Site of WWII B29 wreck (yup it was a B29 after all)
5 - Astro's Glen
6 - Site of "long term" camp
7 - Location of Wild Boar
8 - Lots of Flowering plants - seems to attract some kind of bee and other insects
9 - Hypatia's Stone

The other features are self explanatory

 

[*Kia*]

http://www.kia-glitz.com/images/misc/ilandfeatures.jpg

 

[*Kia*]

Well, now while I sat there trying to work out where everything was in relation to me this "breifcase" washed up.
It's all battered by the sea but it had a newspaper (amongst a few "official looking" papers) inside.
I know it's recent because it's less than 7 days since we were wrecked.

The headline states a ship went down around 20 mile off the coast of "Wooley Island".

Wooley Island has been uninhabited for centuries due to mysterious "disappearings of it peoples"

It is believed a WWII B29 Bomber went down in the general area of the island.
Several searches were conducted but again one search crew failed to return.

Several air craft were sent to look for signs of wreckage but only 2 returned to base, no sign was seen of any wreck or of the missing aircraft.

All searches have been called off so as to not lose any more lives.

So, it looks like we could be here for a LONG time.

By the way has anyone else noticed these rabbit/cavie type creatures - there is an abundance of them - I wonder what they taste like...

 

[wolram]

Thats a real cool map babs, and that article you found makes things seem a
bit creepy, may be we should double the watch.

 

[hypatia]

I thikn I will need a few spear like weapons, just to have around the kitchen area.
Its a great site for a permanet shelter!

 

[wolram]

I thikn I will need a few spear like weapons, just to have around the kitchen area.
Its a great site for a permanet shelter!

Im sure the," hairy one", will make you some, but you don't have to stay in the
kitchen all the time, let smurf have a go, its about time he did some thing.

 

[wolram]

Well i for one have given up hope of rescue, this island is as good a place to
live any way, once we get the house built, and Brewie and Danger cobble
together some gizmos i think this place will be just great.

 

[*Kia*]

Oh, and given that the spring feeding River Evo is coming down the side of the dormant volcano wouldn't I be right in assuming the water is purified by filtering through the volcanic rock?

As, for these folks disappearing - where is everyone today... I hope you're all off working on hunting and building.

Forgive me, geography was quite sometime ago but is the bermuda triangle not somewhere in the pacific?

 

[wolram]

Oh, and given that the spring feeding River Evo is coming down the side of the dormant volcano wouldn't I be right in assuming the water is purified by filtering through the volcanic rock?

As, for these folks disappearing - where is everyone today... I hope you're all off working on hunting and building.

Forgive me, geography was quite sometime ago but is the bermuda triangle not somewhere in the pacific?

I think they have a secret still some where.

 

[*Kia*]

I think they have a secret still some where.

Ah, I see

 

[hypatia]

The water is very cold, that's a good sign, it comes from deep with in the earth. Animals are drinking from it, so its safe.
I took a walk, and TA-DAAAAA...Ginger root!Taro root! tonight we can have Poi with our ginger pork dinner!

 

[brewnog]

where is everyone today... I hope you're all off working on hunting and building.

Evening all. I've been down to check out the caves around Brewies Drop today. It seems people have been here before. It looked like some kind of smuggler's hideout. I found a couple of old inflatable boats. The rubber is rotten beyond repair, but it's possible that the outboards are servicable. I also found a large holdall containing some goodies. There are seven bandanas, a large Jolly Roger pirate flag, three brooms, and an empty parrot cage.

 

[*Kia*]

Poi

hehehe that sounds so odd to think of eating poi... You see I DO poi - as in dance with fire (although not so often with fire usually with lights)

 

[Moonbear]

Kia, thanks for the map, that's so helpful! (And very well done!)

I'll be avoiding that area with the flowers and all the bees. I've only been stung once on my foot and my whole foot swelled up about twice its normal size, so I won't be taking any chances around bees when we don't have any epinephrine if I turn out to be allergic.

As for my whereabouts today, well, on the Northwest side of Bear Peak, I found this hot spring, and it just felt so good on my aching muscles.

 

[hypatia]

hehehe that sounds so odd to think of eating poi... You see I DO poi - as in dance with fire (although not so often with fire usually with lights)

Well we won't be eating any dancers..unless we half to

ut oh moonbear, me too, and my epi-pen went down with the ship!

 

[Astronuc]

Well, the main frame of the big house is up - located at 6 on the map - "long term" camp. It's far enough away from boars and bees, and close to water and the bomber.

The structure is 5 m x 20 m, which gives each of 20 people an average space of 2 m x 2.5 m. We'll start putting the roof on tomorrow.

I will spend the night near the flowers and gather some honey at day break before the bees get active. Fortunately bees stings are not a problem - just a minor irritation, but then if I handle them properly, I don't expect to get stung, well not much anyway.

I'll be back in the morning to work on the roof. After the roof is on, I'll be headed to Astro's glen in the evening, and then head to the north end of the island the following day to explore the River Moon. I'll take some cured boar's meat, some honey, and eat whatever I find.

Still have to catch the sow, but that will have to wait until I get back.

 

[hypatia]

I'll show people how to make sleeping mats, they will each need to make there own.
We can also mix some mud and dried grass to fill in any gaps at ground level, so the little critters don't come in.

Ohh take the pemician, it had fruits and fats dried in it too, and make sure to take water.