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The discussion focuses on calculating the mass and density of a hollow sphere with an inner radius of 8 cm and an outer radius of 9 cm, floating half submerged in a liquid with a density of 800 kg/m³. The correct approach involves using the outer radius to determine the volume of the displaced liquid, which is equal to half the sphere's volume. The mass of the sphere is confirmed to be 1.2 kg, achieved by correctly applying the formula for volume and ensuring the radius is cubed, not squared.

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[SOLVED] Stupid Buoyancy, this is getting ridiculous.

A hollow sphere of inner readius 8cm and outer radius 9cm floats half submerged in a liquid of density 800kg/m^3. What is the mass of the sphere and the density of the material it is made from.

\sum F=0
\Rightarrow mg-F_b=0
\Rightarrow m=\rho*\frac{V_s}{2}

Now for the Volume do I use \frac{4}{3}\pi r^2
or

\frac{4}{3}\pi (r_2^2-r_1^2) ?

I thought it would just be the outer radius that was important here. But I have tried BOTH ways and both come out wrong...so I am messing something else here...are there only 2 Forces here?

The answer for mass should be 1.2 kg

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Casey
 
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The sphere displaces liquid equal to half its volume. You want to take the outer radius to work this out. Now the weight of this displaced liquid is equal to the magnitude of the upthrust supporting the sphere. This means that the weight of the sphere is equal to that of the displaced water. Therefore all you have to do is find the volume of the sphere material and you should be able to find the density. Remember the whole sphere isn't made of that material just a shell.
 
Kurdt said:
The sphere displaces liquid equal to half its volume. You want to take the outer radius to work this out. Now the weight of this displaced liquid is equal to the magnitude of the upthrust supporting the sphere. This means that the weight of the sphere is equal to that of the displaced water. Therefore all you have to do is find the volume of the sphere material and you should be able to find the density. Remember the whole sphere isn't made of that material just a shell.

So shouldn't it just be m=\rho_l*V=800*\frac{1}{2}*\frac{4\pi}{3}*(.09)^2
 
To elaborate more to find the mass of the displaced liquid the volume you want to be using is,

V=\frac{4}{3} \pi r_1^3

then the volume of the sphere material will be given by,

V=\frac{4}{3} \pi (r_1^3-r_2^3)

where r_1=9cm and r_2=8cm.
 
Saladsamurai said:
So shouldn't it just be m=\rho_l*V=800*\frac{1}{2}*\frac{4\pi}{3}*(.09)^2

Yes that's correct for the mass of the sphere. If you plug the numbers in you should get the 1.2Kg you are looking for.
 
Kurdt said:
Yes that's correct for the mass of the sphere. If you plug the numbers in you should get the 1.2Kg you are looking for.

But I don't. I get 13.57.:confused:

Casey
 
Oh right just noticed that you're squaring the radius instead of cubing. Amazing how you see what you think you're going to see. Silly me.
 
Kurdt said:
Oh right just noticed that you're squaring the radius instead of cubing. Amazing how you see what you think you're going to see. Silly me.

:smile: Very true! I think that every mistake that I have made for the last two semesters has been of this nature! What a jerk! I am going to make my avatar a dunce cap!

Thanks Kurdt!
Casey
 
Hey no problem. Everyone on this site has made a similar mistake, I guarantee it.
 

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