Derivative of 2^x: Solving Limits at 17

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function 2^x, specifically through the evaluation of the limit as x approaches 0 of the expression (2^x - 1)/x. Participants explore various approaches to this limit and its implications for understanding derivatives of exponential functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants attempt to rewrite the limit using properties of exponents and logarithms, while others suggest using substitutions to simplify the expression. There are discussions about the relationship between the derivative of 2^x and the natural exponential function e.

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Participants are actively sharing their methods and reasoning, with some offering corrections to each other's approaches. There is a recognition of the connection between the derivative of 2^x and the constant ln(2), although no consensus on the final outcome has been reached.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the use of the natural exponential function e in their calculations, indicating a potential gap in their prior learning. The discussion also hints at the educational context, with references to what has been taught in their courses.

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Hi, I've been trying to find the derivative of 2^x and i got stuck here:
Lim (2^x - 1)/x
x=>0

How can i solve this limit (with steps please)
ps. I am only 17
 
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CrimeBeats said:
Hi, I've been trying to find the derivative of 2^x and i got stuck here:
Lim (2^x - 1)/x
x=>0

How can i solve this limit (with steps please)
ps. I am only 17

Have you had the same limit for ex? What you want to do is notice that

2x = (eln(2))x = exln(2)

Now your limit becomes:

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{e^{x\ln 2} - 1}{x}[/tex]

Now let u = x ln(2) and use what you know about ex.

[Edit] Corrected typo
 
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I have been doing it this way all the time which I thought it is very straight forward:


[tex]y=2^{x}\Rightarrow ln(y)=xln(2)[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow \frac{1}{y}\frac{dy}{dx}=ln(2)[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow dy=d[2^{x}]=yln2dx=2^x ln(2)dx[/tex]
 
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yungman said:
I have been doing it this way all the time which I thought it is very straight forward:


[tex]y=2^{x}\Rightarrow ln(y)=xln(2)[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow \frac{1}{y}\frac{dy}{dx}=ln(2)[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow dy=d[2^{x}]=xln(2)dx[/tex]
No, but probably a typo. You have to multiply both sides by y dx, not x dx.
[itex]dy= yln(2)dx= 2^x ln(2) dx[/itex].
 
With [tex]e^{ln(2)x}[/tex], you can easily take the derivative of that. Just don't simplify the [tex]e^{ln2}[/tex] part. You should get [tex]ln(2)e^{ln(2)x}[/tex] as the numerator while the denominator becomes 1. Now do this expression with [tex]\lim_{x->0}[/tex]. By the way, LCKurtz made a slight typo.
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, but probably a typo. You have to multiply both sides by y dx, not x dx.
[itex]dy= yln(2)dx= 2^x ln(2) dx[/itex].

My finger is get too far ahead of me! And I have destroy evidence already!:wink:
 
I guess the answer is ln(2) * 2^x
No wonder i couldn't solve it before, they thaught us nothing about e

Depending on what you've said this means the derivative of e^x is e^x.. right?
 
CrimeBeats said:
I guess the answer is ln(2) * 2^x
No wonder i couldn't solve it before, they thaught us nothing about e

Depending on what you've said this means the derivative of e^x is e^x.. right?

Yes. Most calculus books do that first before trying other bases.
 
This problem might have been given in preparation for introducing "e".

The derivative of [itex]2^x[/itex] is
[tex]\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{2^{x+y}- 2^x}{h}= \lim_{h\to 0}\frac{2^x2^h- 2^x}{h}[/tex]
[tex]= \lim{h\to 0}\left(\frac{2^h- 1}{h}\right)2^x[/itex]<br /> [tex]= \left(\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{2^h- 1}{h}\right)2^x[/tex]<br /> That is, of course, a constant times [itex]2^x[/itex].<br /> <br /> Similarly, the derivative of [itex]3^x[/itex] is<br /> [tex]= \left(\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{3^h- 1}{h}\right)3^x[/tex]<br /> a constant times [itex]3^x[/itex]<br /> <br /> In that same way you can show that the derivative of [itex]a^x[/itex], for a any positive real number, is [itex]C_a a^x[/itex].<br /> Further, by numerical approximations, you can show that [itex]C_2[/itex] is less than 1 and [itex]C_3[/itex] is greater than 1. There exists, then, a number, a, between 2 and 3 such that [itex]C_a= 1[/itex]. If we call that number "e", then the derivative of [itex]e^x[/itex] is just [itex]e^x[/itex] itself.[/tex]
 

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