PH of solution containing HCl and bicarbonate

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The discussion focuses on calculating the pH of a 1-liter solution containing 0.000077 M HCl and 0.03 M NaHCO3. The initial concentration of HCl was diluted from a 25% solution, and the amount of HCl added is significantly lower than the bicarbonate concentration, suggesting that the pH will remain close to neutral. The reaction between NaHCO3 and HCl forms H2CO3 and NaCl, and the pKa values for bicarbonate and carbonate are noted as 6.4 and 10.3, respectively. Participants suggest using the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation for pH calculations, emphasizing the importance of using the appropriate pKa for bicarbonate. They also highlight that the HH equation has limitations, particularly when the pH is far from the pKa values. Overall, the consensus is that the pH will not deviate significantly from neutral due to the buffering capacity of bicarbonate.
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This should be an easy one for some of you, but it's difficult to me because of my lack of chemistry knowledge. This is not a homework problem, but a calculation I need to do for my research.

I need to calculate the pH of a 1 Liter solution containing 0.000077 M HCl and 0.03 M Na-HCO3.
(not necessary to read --->) I started with 10 mL of 25% HCl, which has a concentration of 7.7 M HCl. I diluted this in 1 Liter of water bringing the concentration of HCl down to 0.077 M. I then take 1 mL of this solution and dilute it again in 1 L bringing the concentration of HCl down to 0.000077 M. To this solution I add 2.52 grams of sodium bicarbonate. This has a concentration of 0.03 M (2.52 g) x (1 mol / 84 g) x (1/L). The pKa for bicarbonate/carbonic acid, or HCO3 / H2CO3 is 6.4. The pKa for carbonate/bicarbonate, or CO3/HCO3 is 10.3. Bicarbonate, a buffer, reacts with HCl, as follows:

NaHCO3 + HCl <--> H2CO3 + NaCl

If you don't want to do calculations, could you tell from just looking at the concentrations that I will have a near neutral pH? I'm growing microorganisms.
 
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If you want to know pH, it is better to measure it.

Amount of HCl you added is three orders of magnitude lower than the amount of bicarbonate, so it is not able to substantially change the pH of the solution - which means you are close to the pH of the bicarbonate (##\frac{pK_{a1}+pK_{a2}}{2}##, see derivation here). pH calculator shows pH changes just by a few hundredths.
 
Thanks for the help. I just used the calculator and got the same result. Someone else told me I could use Henderson-Hasselbach, but in that equation do I also use the intermediate pKa? This person told me to:

1.) assume that all the HCl is reacted with the bicarbonate to form H2CO3
2.) assume that initially HCO3 and H2CO3 are equimolar
3.) add the concentration of HCl lost to H2SO3 and subtract it from HCO3.
 
kmichel1985 said:
Thanks for the help. I just used the calculator and got the same result. Someone else told me I could use Henderson-Hasselbach, but in that equation do I also use the intermediate pKa? This person told me to:

1.) assume that all the HCl is reacted with the bicarbonate to form H2CO3
2.) assume that initially HCO3 and H2CO3 are equimolar
3.) add the concentration of HCl lost to H2SO3 and subtract it from HCO3.

That's also a correct approach. Yes, you need to use pKa1 here, as it will be about equilibrium between H2CO3/HCO3-.

Note that HH equation has its limitations, especially when the pH calculated is far from the pKa value, pr when the pKa is small or too high.
 
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