Why operation * not defined in Q

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Show that l/m * k/n = (l+k)/(m2+n2) can not be defined as an operation in Q when l,k € Z and m, n € Z\{0}

I do not know what is the issue here? Should I know something about Q that this not fulfilled by the operation *?
 
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pakkanen said:

Homework Statement



Show that l/m * k/n = (l+k)/(m2+n2) can not be defined as an operation in Q when l,k € Z and m, n € Z\{0}

I do not know what is the issue here? Should I know something about Q that this not fulfilled by the operation *?

Hint: What happens if you negate l and m?
 
Ok.. So the same operation can produce two different results??

So that l/m * k/n = (l+k)/(m2+n2) ≠ (-l+k)/((-m)2+n2) = -l/-m * k/n = l/m * k/n
 
pakkanen said:
Ok.. So the same operation can produce two different results??

So that l/m * k/n = (l+k)/(m2+n2) ≠ (-l+k)/((-m)2+n2) = -l/-m * k/n = l/m * k/n
That's right, so the operation is not well defined.
 
Thank you very much jbunniii! Helped me a lot. I think we'll meet again.
 
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