Understanding Planck Units: The Impact of kB in Temperature Definition

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Planck units are defined using fundamental constants G, c, and \hbar, which determine length, mass, and time, while temperature uniquely incorporates the Boltzmann constant (kB). This inclusion of kB in temperature definitions raises questions about the consistency of these units, as it appears "uneven" compared to the other dimensions. The discussion highlights that the definitions are not arbitrary but stem from the fundamental relationships between these constants. The notion of temperature having a "4-dimensional" unit suggests a deeper complexity compared to the three-dimensional nature of length, mass, and time. The implications of this distinction invite further exploration into the nature of temperature in the context of physics.
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Hello,

Planck units are defined here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units

Length, mass and time are defined via G, c and \hbar and do not involve kB;
But temperature contains all G, c and \hbar and kB;

Perhaps this is okay; just seems "uneven" that kB appears with a zero power in the definitions of length, mass and time but with nonzero power in the definition of temperature.

It seems a bit "ad hoc"... Would anyone have a comment on these definition choices?
 
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Mass, space and time are connected both via gravity and via quantum theory. This is not true for temperature. It is just (directly) related to energy.

It is not a choice. If you set all those constants to 1, you have no choice how to get Planck units (apart from constant prefactors).
 
The reason I am asking is I read this thread (thread) on Planck units.

It says that c, G and \hbar form a "vector basis" (1,0,0) (0,1,0) and (0,0,1) where adding vectors corresponds to multiplication of units.

It is interesting that adding kB happens only for temperature, as if temperature has a "4-dimensional" unit, while L, T, M are less-dimensional. Wondering what the implications of this could be.
 
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