Is 0^0 Equal to 1? An Explanation of Mathematical Concepts and Terminology

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dimension10 said:
But the definition of a prime number, is that, it has only 2 factors. 2 has 2 factors and is thus a prime numbers.

I have provided a sound argument as compared to yours, that "0 is not a number because it does not share a certain property with all other rationals". Believe me, every rational has some property not shared with all other rationals.

2 does similarly not share a property with all other primes, but this provides no basis for denying that 2 is a prime number.

What I'm most interested in is what you consider "a number" is. It is essentially a conventional label (which leaves it up to personal, or more correctly, collective opinion), and no argument could prove that 0 is not a number. This applies to the primes as well. The definition "a natural number which is divisible only by 1 and itself is a prime" corresponds to "an element of Q is a number". We don't leave out 2 as a prime by the same type of reason we don't leave out 0 as a number.
 
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dimension10, what exactly is your definition of a number?
 
  • #103
dimension10 said:
Means if you put b 1 time you get 1, right?

:rolleyes: I think my brain melted...

disregardthat said:
What I'm most interested in is what you consider "a number" is.

micromass said:
dimension10, what exactly is your definition of a number?

Thirded. I too would like to know.
 
  • #104
dimension10 said:
b multiplied by 1 means 1 times of b. Means if you put b 1 time you get 1, right? So, 1 is a number.
No, you get b.
 
  • #105
disregardthat said:
2 is not a prime number. Every other prime number is odd, only 2 stands out.

Doesn't that make 2 rather odd?
 
  • #106
dimension10: you have an opinion on the meaning of the word "number". Your opinion differs from the established usage of the word. That fact will not change no matter how many rationalizations you give.


(moderator hat on) If you wish to continue to try and tell people that they ought to redefine number to match what you want things to be, then do one of the following two things:
  1. Go to another forum
  2. Find a really, strongly compelling reason why such a convention is actually useful

(hint: some minor technical condition you have arbitrarily decided should define "number" does not count as a "compelling reason", especially when lacking motivation)[/color]
 
  • #107
dimension 10, what you must realize is that calling something a number doesn't mean that this something suddenly is something magical. It's just another name. That's all it is.

If I would call the integers bazalbieba's, then I could, and everything would still work the same way. But mathematicians have not decided to use the word bazalbieba's, but to use the word number. It's just a name..

I agree that 0 is just a concept, but so are 1,2 and 3. These are all just concepts, which we happen to call "number". Like I said, you can call them something else if you want to, but mathematicians still use the word "number"...

When I call 6 a perfect number, it just means that the sum of it's proper divisors is 6. It means nothing more. It doesn't mean that 6 is suddenly perfection or something. It means exactly what the definition says it means, nothing more and nothing less.

Sorry, Hurk, if a reply wasn't allowed anymore, but I think this could end some confusion.
 

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