What are the forces that can break atoms apart from each other?

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The discussion focuses on the forces that can break the electromagnetic bonds between atoms in molecules, such as covalent and ionic bonds. It highlights that external influences, like collisions or the absorption of photons, are necessary to disrupt stable molecules. For instance, exposure to UV light can provide energy that destabilizes molecules, leading to the formation of free radicals. The conversation also touches on quantum mechanics, explaining how energy absorption can promote electrons from bonding to anti-bonding orbitals, resulting in instability due to reduced electron density between nuclei. The complexity of molecular bonding is emphasized, indicating that the process of breaking bonds involves various factors, including kinetic and potential energy changes, rather than a single "force" responsible for bond disruption.
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Hi Guy's (and by guy's I mean guys and dolls:)
I am trying to figure out what things (forces, anti-forces?) can break, or undue the electromagnetic forces that bring atoms together to make molecules. Is there only one type of force (magnetic?) - if so what can undo that force as well. These bonds of atoms, whether they be covalent or ionic or any other kind, can they be broken, undone etc and how so? Thank you all for helping out.
Oliver
 
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I know Cl2 can be broken down into two pure chlorine radicles in the presence of UV light ! In the presence of UV light electrons gains energy and molecule becomes unstable ! Therefore due to repulsive electrostatic forces molecule gets broken down into free radicals !
 
james oliver said:
Hi Guy's (and by guy's I mean guys and dolls:)
I am trying to figure out what things (forces, anti-forces?) can break, or undue the electromagnetic forces that bring atoms together to make molecules. Is there only one type of force (magnetic?) - if so what can undo that force as well. These bonds of atoms, whether they be covalent or ionic or any other kind, can they be broken, undone etc and how so? Thank you all for helping out.
Oliver

Well, if a collection of atoms have formed a stable molecule, then some outside influence is necessary to break it up such as a collision or absorption of a photon or whatever. In the example already given, energy is put into some degree of freedom (vibrational or electronic) such that it's energetically favored for something to break off of the molecule. If you want that in terms of "forces", I guess there's a way to think about, say, a molecule with only two electrons in a valence bonding orbital absorbing a photon and promoting an electron from the bonding to an anti-bonding orbital and because anti-bonding orbitals are always more anti-bonding than bonding orbitals are bonding, the molecule will be unstable. Now, you can call that a quantum phenomenon because it has to do with the way you construct the superpositions that form the bonding or anti-bonding states, or if you have your heart set on calling it a "force", I guess you could say that because there is reduced electron density between the nuclei (due to the node in the anti-bonding state), the "force" that pushes things apart is an electrostatic repulsion, but that's not really the whole story. As you may have guessed by this rambling response, it's not really as simple as "the force that breaks up molecules is X". There's a nice paper out there called "the physical mechanism of the chemical bond" or some such thing that goes through all of the counts of how much is due to kinetic energy lowering, potential energy lowering etc when a bond is formed.
 
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