Can anyone show me how to work this problem out?

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The problem involves comparing the travel times of light and sound to determine an integer value, n, based on the distance of an event. It relates to the concepts of wave propagation and speed in physics.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of treating light as arriving instantly compared to sound. There are attempts to calculate the time taken for sound to travel 1 km and to derive the integer n based on these calculations. Some participants question the accuracy of the provided values for the speeds of light and sound.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of light and sound, but there is no explicit consensus on the final value of n.

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There are discussions about the precision of the speeds of light and sound, and how these values affect the calculations. The original poster's request for a solution has led to various interpretations and calculations, highlighting the complexity of the problem.

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Can anyone show me how to work this problem out?

The speed of light is 3.0*10^8 m/s and the speed of sound is 340 m/s. Find the vaule of the interger n in the following statement:"If you start counting seconds when you see something happen and stop when you hear it happen, for every n seconds counted the event was about 1 km away."
 
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Here's a hint: for all practical purposes you can treat the light as arriving instantly compared to the sound. So... how long does it take the sound to travel 1 km?
 
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[tex]\Delta t=t_{stop}-t_{start}[/tex]
[tex]\Delta t=s[\frac{1}{v_{sound}}-\frac{1}{v_{light}}][/tex]
For s = 1 km,
[tex]\Delta t=2.9s=3s[/tex]
n=3 s
 

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but 3 is not the exact answer is it?

I'll show my calculation.

time take light to travel 1000 m is 1000/(3 *10^8) = a

Sound traveled a distance during that time 340 * a = 1/750 m

So sound should reach there when:

(1000-(1/750)/340 = 749 999/255000 s

so each n = 749 999/255000s for each km

shouldn't the integer be 749999 which happen at 255 km , unless 749999 is not prime...
 
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needhelpperson said:
but 3 is not the exact answer is it?
But neither is 3 x 10^8 m/s the exact speed of light, nor 340 m/s the exact speed of sound.
shouldn't the integer be 749999 which happen at 255 km , unless 749999 is not prime...
I think you've missed the point of this simple exercise. :wink:
 

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