Why are Cl atoms more chemically active than Cl- ion?

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The discussion revolves around the chemical reactivity of chlorine (Cl) atoms compared to chloride (Cl-) ions, as well as sodium (Na) atoms versus sodium (Na+) ions. Participants explore the underlying reasons for the differences in reactivity, touching on concepts such as electron configurations and the octet rule.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Cl atoms are more reactive than Cl- ions because the ions have closed electron shells, making it difficult to add, remove, or share electrons.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of the octet rule, indicating that Cl- and Na+ have stable electron configurations with 8 electrons in their valence shells, which may contribute to their lower reactivity.
  • Another participant proposes that Cl atoms are reactive due to their desire to complete their octet, while Na atoms are reactive because they have a free electron they wish to lose to achieve stability.
  • Some participants express a need for more detailed explanations and suggest looking into chemistry texts or forums for further understanding.
  • There are mentions of language barriers affecting comprehension of the material, with one participant noting that their textbooks differ from those commonly used in the US.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and agreement on the reasons behind the reactivity of Cl and Na atoms versus their respective ions. While some points about electron configurations and the octet rule are raised, there is no consensus on a definitive explanation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate that their educational resources may not align with those familiar to others, potentially impacting their understanding of the concepts discussed.

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Hi , I have an other question , I know Its a stupid question to you brialliant ppl :shy:
but I hope I find the answer here

why are Cl atoms more chemically active than Cl- ion ?
and why are Na atoms more chemically active than Na+ ion ?


thanx
 
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The ions have closed shells. It is difficult to add or remove an electron, or even share one covalently.
 
thanx for ur reply Meir , but can u give me a more detailed answer
with some explanations
 
I am not a chemist. Ask on a chem forum or read a chem text.
 
ok thanks , give me alink that can help me , please
 
Suggestion to mentors: Possibly move to chemistry forums?

~H
 
think the octet rule, and read up on it.
 
ghallya said:
Hi , I have an other question , I know Its a stupid question to you brialliant ppl :shy:
but I hope I find the answer here

why are Cl atoms more chemically active than Cl- ion ?
and why are Na atoms more chemically active than Na+ ion ?


thanx
This results directly from the Octet rule. Write the electronic configurations of these atoms/ions - you will see that Cl- and Na+ have 8 electrons each in the valence shell. This is the magic number needed to maximize the stability of the atom/ion (ie : make the total potential energy of the system = sum of all electron-nucleus interaction energies + electron-electron interaction energies as negative as possible).
 
thhhhhhhanx very much Gokul43201

I really appreciate your help
 
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ghallya said:
Hi ,
why are Cl atoms more chemically active than Cl- ion ?
and why are Na atoms more chemically active than Na+ ion ?


thanx

Read Peter Atkins book The Periodic Kingdom http://tinyurl.com/ol6lq pages 171-173 for an explanation of the differences in reactivity of Na / Na+ and Cl/Cl-.
 
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thanx crabslover
I want you all to know , that our books or different than your books
and its written in the cover (not for sale in th US )
I don't know why , but we don't understand simple things because we are not that good in english but we are forced to study it to graduate
Im sorry if I was anoying
and thanks to all who helped us

Ghallya
 
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:rolleyes: :
ghallya said:
Hi , I have an other question , I know Its a stupid question to you brialliant ppl :shy:
but I hope I find the answer here

why are Cl atoms more chemically active than Cl- ion ?
and why are Na atoms more chemically active than Na+ ion ?


thanx


good qwestion!
i believe that cl atoms r reactive just bec. of their config. they want to complete their octet and gets converted into corrosponding ion,
same is the case with with na ,
na is just having a free electron in its valence shell,and it want to lose it to
get its octet completed
one more general reason is u can rember
every ion is having its partner to neutalize its charge
so does any bare atom,it become reactive and combine to have its valence electron shared or lost.
 

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