V to get C. Calculating Max Capacitance of Coaxial Capacitor

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The discussion centers on calculating the maximum capacitance of a coaxial capacitor with given dimensions and dielectric properties. The user initially derived equations for electric field and voltage but arrived at an implausible capacitance value of 1.6 farads. They recognized a mistake in their calculations, specifically in substituting the permittivity of free space with the relative permittivity instead of the product of both. The user also suggested using Gauss's law to find the enclosed charge at breakdown voltage, which could lead to a more accurate capacitance calculation. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying dielectric properties in capacitor calculations.
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Homework Statement


Consider a coaxial capacitor. If the inner radius is 5mm, the length is 3 cm, and the voltage rating of the capacitor is 2kV, what is the maximum capacitance if the dielectric between the two conductors is 2.3, and E breakdown is 15MV/m.

Homework Equations


<br /> E_r = \frac{\rho_s a}{\epsilon_r r}<br />
a is the inner radius and r is the radius between the inner and outer conductors at whch we want to find the E field. Since the E field will strongest nearest to the inner conductor, I'm using:
<br /> E_{r,breakdown} = \frac{\rho_s}{\epsilon_r}<br />
This is because I want to find the surface charge density nearest to the inner conductor that will !begin to breakdown the dielectric. I figure we never even want to start to breakdown the dielectric. I hope this makes sense.
<br /> V = \frac{\rho_s a}{\epsilon_r}[ln(a)-ln(b)]<br />
with V = 2k I used this to find b (outer radius)
Finally,
<br /> C = \frac{2\pi\epsilon_r h}{ln(b/a)}<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


I derived all the above equations, and pretty much plugged in numbers, and I'm getting about 1.6 farads which seem wrong.

Actually, thinking about it. I don't see why I can't just use gauss' law to find the enclosed charge (with E = E breakdown) and then divide by 2k
 
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I got it. If anyone is interested, the mistake I made was deriving the equations by simply replacing the permittivity of free space with the relative permittivity. In fact you are supposed to replace the permittivity of free space with the permittivity of free space times the relative permittivity.
 
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