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The discussion focuses on understanding specific piston measurements, including compression height, ringland, deck thickness, and ring grooves. Compression height refers to the distance from the gudgeon pin center to the piston crown, while ringland is the space between the piston rings. Deck thickness is suggested to be the thinnest point of the piston top, and ring grooves are where the rings sit. Participants emphasize that piston/deck height volume is influenced by other engine components, not just the piston itself. The conversation also touches on how altering piston height can affect engine compression ratios for improved performance.
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I'm trying to find an article or something similar online that has a diagram of a piston and explains the different parts of the piston.

For example, trying to find out what the piston's compression height, ringland, deck thickness, ring grooves, etc.

I would like to know what all of these mean.

A particular piston I'm looking at says:

Compression Height: 1.090
Ringland: .220, .140, 075.
Deck Thick: .325
Ring Grooves: 1/16,1/16,3/16

What do those numbers mean?

Thanks from a newbie:)
 
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Compression height is the distance from the centre of the gudgeon pin to the crown of the piston (the flat bit on the top).

Ring land is the distance between the rings; hence top ring land is the distance between the top ring and the crown.

Ring grooves are the grooves into which the piston rings sit.

I'm not sure about 'deck thick', I imagine it to be the thickness of the top deck taken at its thinnest point.
 
Your always a helpful one:cool:

Anyone got a piston diagram that is labeled?
 
Fred's link said:
Piston/Deck height volume is the small volume at the top of the cylinder that is not swept by the
piston.

That's what I was going to suggest too, but it's not actually a piston parameter because it's dependent on other components, whereas all the others are piston-specific. I think there's a subtle difference between piston/deck height volume and deck thickness.

I'll try and remember to ask next time my piston man is around.

I've got a labelled piston diagram but it's in a book and doesn't have all the parameters you were after. I'll see what I can find at work, failing that I'm certain you'll find something on the Federal Mogul or Mahle websites.
 
brewnog said:
That's what I was going to suggest too, but it's not actually a piston parameter because it's dependent on other components, whereas all the others are piston-specific. I think there's a subtle difference between piston/deck height volume and deck thickness.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw that. However, couldn't that parameter be changed simply by changing the height of the piston? I honestly have no idea why one would do that other than increased pressure. Is that usually an option with pistons?
 
FredGarvin said:
I was thinking the same thing when I saw that. However, couldn't that parameter be changed simply by changing the height of the piston? I honestly have no idea why one would do that other than increased pressure. Is that usually an option with pistons?

Yes it could be changed by altering the height of the piston, that's why I don't think it's a piston parameter; it's as much to do with the crankshaft, case, and conrod as the piston itself.

You'd be changing it to alter the engine's compression ratio for power and efficiency.
 

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