Why Does a Falling Particle Take 9/11 of Total Time to Cover Half the Distance?

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The discussion revolves around a particle falling to Earth from a significant height, with the goal of understanding why it takes approximately 9/11 of the total fall time to cover half the distance. The problem involves gravitational forces and the equations of motion under gravity, neglecting air resistance.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the relationship between time and distance for a falling particle using gravitational equations and integration. Some participants question the application of the chain rule in the context of acceleration and velocity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the mathematical derivations and clarifying the relationships between variables. There is an indication of confusion regarding the application of the chain rule, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's approach or the correctness of their calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can provide or the methods they can use. The original poster's calculations lead to complex expressions, and there is a noted issue with handling limits that results in infinity.

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1. Problem: A particle falls to Earth starting from rest at a great height (may times Earth's radius ). Neglect air resistance and show that the particle requires approximately 9/11 of the total time of fall to traverse the first half of the distance.

Homework Equations


[tex]F=\frac{-G M_e m}{r^2}[/tex]

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[tex]F=\frac{-G M_e m}{r^2}[/tex]
[tex]a=\frac{-G M_e}{r^2}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\partial v}{\partial r} v = \frac{-G M_e}{r^2}[/tex]
separate and integrate
[tex] \frac{1}{2}v^2=\frac{G M_e}{r}+K[/tex]
[tex]v^2 = \frac{2G M_e}{r}+K[/tex]
[tex]v^2(r_0)=\frac{2G M_e}{r_0}+K=0[/tex]
[tex]v^2=2G M_e \( \frac{1}{r}-\frac{1}{r_0}\)[/tex]
Then take square root, replace v with the time derivative of r, separate and integrate and you get this mess:
[tex]\int{\sqrt{\frac{r_0 r}{r_0-r}}\partial r}=\sqrt{G M_e}t[/tex]
Which comes out to having a tangent in it, and in general very messy. Also when you plug the two values [tex]r_0[/tex] and 0, you wind up with an infinity. So any ideas where I went wrong?
 
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Are you sure a=(dv/dt)v?
 
It's not a = (dv/dt)v, it's a=(dv/dr)v
[tex]a = \frac{\partial v}{\partial r}*\frac{\partial r}{\partial t} = \frac{dv}{dt}[/tex]
Chain rule!
 
Okay, sorry. Couldn't make out the r on this old computer monitor.
 

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