Why torsion free metric compatible connection ?

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The discussion revolves around the choice of a torsion-free, metric-compatible connection in general relativity (GR). Participants explore whether this choice can be derived from physical principles or if it is merely a convenient simplification that aligns with experimental results. The implications of using a connection with torsion and its compatibility with the metric are also examined.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the choice of a torsion-free, metric-compatible connection can be derived from physical principles or if it is simply a convenient choice that simplifies equations.
  • Another participant notes that a non-torsion-free connection introduces an additional tensor field (the torsion tensor) that must be accounted for, suggesting implications for the theory.
  • A participant seeks to understand the physical meaning of a metric-compatible connection, specifically how it relates to the preservation of angles between parallel transported 4-vectors and its relevance to physical experiments.
  • One view presented is that a torsion-free, metric-compatible connection implies that the metric tensor field encapsulates the geometry of spacetime, influencing the motion of free particles and the propagation of light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of torsion-free, metric-compatible connections, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the potential experimental implications of metric compatibility and the introduction of torsion, but these aspects remain unresolved and contingent on further exploration.

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why torsion free metric compatible connection ?

Why in conventional GR we choose a torsion free, metric compatible connection?

Can that be derived from somewhere like physical principles/postulates or it's just a the simplest convenient choice (many terms drop from equations) that produces theory in agreement with experiment?

Had we chosen a connection with torsion that is not metric compatible, would that violate any experiment?

Also comment if you can on the Palatini's 'derivation' of the metric compatible torsion free connection by varying the connection in the action as a free field. Is that a real proof that the connection must be of this type or it's just an 'interesting fact' you can derive it that way?
 
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What is the physical meaning of 'metric compatible' connection if any?

Wald says that metric compatible connection preserves the angle between two parallel transported 4-vectors. How is that relevant to physical experiments? What I am asking for is, can the metric compatibility or the lack of it be checked experimentally?
 
One view is that
"[torsion-free] metric compatibility" means that the metric tensor field carries all of the information of the geometry of spacetime...
Physically, this means that the metric tensor field determines the motion of free particles (the geodesic structure) and the propagation of light (the conformal structure..and causal structure).

This might be a useful resource:
http://relativity.livingreviews.org/open?pubNo=lrr-2004-2&page=articlesu3.html
 
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