Earth Underground Temperature: Hot or Cold?

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The discussion centers on the consistent temperature found underground regardless of surface conditions, with a focus on the potential temperatures at depths of around 20 feet on planets like Titan and Venus. It highlights that the average surface temperature of Venus is approximately 461°C, suggesting that temperatures at that depth would be similarly extreme if soils are present. For Titan, the presence of water ice and methane ice indicates much colder temperatures, likely around -180°C, influenced by the mineralogy and pressure at that depth. The conversation also touches on the possibility of liquid water existing underground in extreme environments, as seen on Earth where water can be found below the surface even in desert regions. The ongoing exploration of Mars by NASA is mentioned as part of the search for subsurface water, reinforcing the idea that extreme surface conditions do not necessarily preclude the presence of liquid water underground.
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I was just thinking about how the temperature on Earth at a certain depth is always a certain temp even when it is cold or hot out. On a planet, or moon like say Titan or venus, what would be the temperature say 20' or so underground? Also, if extreme temperatures on the surface won't permit liquid water, couldn't there still be liquid water underground?
 
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When I had a soils courses eons ago, the idea about temperature was this: the temperature near the surface (say less than 10') will change with the seasons. As you go down it begins to approximate the yearly average temperature above ground.

The average surface temperature of Venus is 461C. So at 20' down, if there are soils present, then that's the temperature there. Much hotter than your kitchen oven.

Ditto Titan. Except the Huygens probe seems to show that "soils" there are made of water ice and methane ice, and possibly clathrates. So the temoperature must be below the freezing point of methane - which has to be well below -161.1C the boiling point of methane. About -180C or -292F is what I can find quickly.
 
Depends on the mineralogy of the depth at question and its pressure. Perhaps there is a geothermometer that could answer your question, may be the best way to go. As for the water question, I suppose that is why the nerds at NASA are still sending probes to mars. Here on earth, at least, there are places where water does not exist (but for vapor) on or above the surface but certainly below, like a desert.
 
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