Solve Block Sliding on Plane: Coeff of Friction, Drag Force

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a block sliding down an inclined plane. Participants are addressing the forces acting on the block, including gravitational force, friction, and air resistance, and are seeking assistance in setting up the relevant equations and differential equations for velocity and displacement over time.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the forces acting on the block, calculating the components of weight down the slope and perpendicular to the slope, and mentions the friction force and air drag.
  • Another participant expresses understanding of the formulas but requests help specifically with setting up the differential equation.
  • Some participants critique the original poster for posting the same question in multiple forums, suggesting it is counterproductive and against forum guidelines.
  • There is a call for the original poster to demonstrate their own work to facilitate more effective assistance from others.

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Participants generally agree that the original poster should show their work and that duplicate postings are problematic. However, there is disagreement regarding the appropriateness of posting the same question in multiple forums and the best way to assist the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Some participants emphasize the importance of understanding the distinction between weight and mass in the context of the problem, and there is a suggestion to clarify the setup of the differential equation without resolving the specifics of the calculations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students seeking help with physics problems involving forces on inclined planes, as well as those interested in the dynamics of motion under the influence of friction and drag forces.

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Problem: A 64-lb block is released from the top of a plane inclined at 30 degrees to the horizontal. As the block slides down the plane, its coefficient of friction is 0.25, and it experiences a drag force due to air resistance equal to one-half is velocity in ft/sec. (a) Determine the equation for the velocity of the block. (b) Determine the equation for the displacement of the block, (c) Calculate the displacement and velocity of the block 5 sec after it is released. I need help setting up the equations and solving them. Thanks for your help
 
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This looks to me like it should be in the "homework" section- and that you should show us what you have done on it yourself!

Calculate all the forces down the slope of the plane: there is a 64 pound force directly downward so the component of weight down the slope (draw the triangle) is
64 sin(30)= 32 pounds. The component of weight perpendicular to the slope is
64 cos(30)= 32 sqrt(3) pounds. You need to know that because the friction force on the block is 0.25 times that force (and, of course, is back up the slope). Finally, the air drag is (1/2)v (back up the slope).

The total force, down the slope, is 32- (0.25)(32)sqrt(3)- (1/2)v and that equals
m dv/dt (caution: m is mass N0T weight!)
 
I understand the formulas to use but I need help setting up the differential equation
 
It's very annoying when you post the same question in several forums.
 
it's not like you have to read every question that is posted, so who's fault is that
 
Loose the attitude. Besides, when two similar posts are made, many will try to figure out the difference, which means that duplicate posts make members loose more than just twice the time.
 
private message from frenika:
it's not like you have to read every message that is posted, so who's fault is that that you think it is annoying. If i wanted to i could post a message in every forum they have on this site

Suit yourself.

See how much help that gets you.
 
frenika,

If i wanted to i could post a message in every forum they have on this site

I'll refer you to the Posting Guidelines.


When posting a new topic, please select the forum that best relates to the subject matter of your topic. If you are unsure, contact a mentor or the admin. Redundant topics are not allowed and are considered spam.[/color]

And I'll also refer you to the https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=4825.

I would also like to say that if you are looking for someone to do your homework for you, then you have come to the wrong place[/color].

Please, for your own sake, try your homework before you come here, and show us where you got stuck. Speaking for myself, I already know that I know how to do your problem. Me doing it for you accomplishes nothing.

So, post away--and show your work!
 
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