How do you differentiate x^{1/x} using the power rule and chain rule?

  • Thread starter Thread starter madmike159
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Differentiation
Click For Summary
The discussion focuses on differentiating the function y = x^{1/x} using the power rule and chain rule. It highlights that the maximum value occurs at x = e, where the gradient is zero. Participants suggest rewriting the function in the form y = exp(f(x)) to facilitate differentiation. The conversation includes methods for applying implicit differentiation and the importance of understanding the underlying rules rather than memorizing them. Overall, the thread emphasizes the utility of logarithmic differentiation for functions of this form.
madmike159
Gold Member
Messages
369
Reaction score
0
I was looking at results of different numbers in the equation \sqrt[x]{x} and found out that the biggest result came when it was \sqrt[e]{e}. I know this can be re-written as x^{1/x} and that the gradient would be 0 at x = e. How would you differentiate y = x^{1/x}, I can't seem to do it using any of the laws I know.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Find a function f(x) that let's you rewrite y=x^{1/x} in the form y=\exp(f(x)).
 
I don't see how that works but I'll give it a go.
 
use the power rule
[u^v]'=v*[u^(v-1)]*u'+[u^v]*[log(u)]*v'
 
Rather than committing the power rule to memory, I find it much easier to remember a couple simple facts which happen to be of use in a lot of other places,
  1. \frac{d}{dx}\left(e^{f(x)}\right) = e^{f(x)}\,f'(x)
  2. f(x) = e^{\ln f(x)}\;\Rightarrow\;u(x)^{v(x)} = e^{v(x)\,\ln u(x)}
and thus

<br /> \aligned<br /> \frac{d}{dx}\left(u(x)^{v(x)}\right)<br /> &amp;= \frac{d}{dx}\left(e^{v(x)\,\ln u(x)}\right) \\<br /> &amp;= e^{v(x)\,\ln u(x)}\frac d {dx}\left(v(x)\,\ln u(x)\right) \\<br /> &amp;= u(x)^{v(x)}\left(v&#039;(x)\,\ln u(x) + \frac{v(x)\,u&#039;(x)}{u(x)}\right)
 
D H said:
Find a function f(x) that let's you rewrite y=x^{1/x} in the form y=\exp(f(x)).

Equivalently, if y= x1/x, then ln(y)= (1/x)ln(x). Use "implicit differentiation".
 
HallsofIvy said:
Equivalently, if y= x1/x, then ln(y)= (1/x)ln(x). Use "implicit differentiation".

or just use it on
y^x=x
 
D H said:
Rather than committing the power rule to memory, I find it much easier to remember a couple simple facts which happen to be of use in a lot of other places,

How is a less general rule more useful?

The power rule is easy to recall since it follows from other rules
first remember the right hand side
[u^v]'
next use the chain rule (C is a constant)
[u^v]'=[u^C]'|C=v+[C^v]'|C=u
now recall
[x^C]'=C*[x^(C-1)]
or using the chain rule
[u^C]'=C*[u^(C-1)]*u'
and
[C^x]'=[C^x]*log(C)
or using the chain rule
[C^v]'=[C^v]*log(C)*v'
inserting these into
[u^v]'=[u^C]'|C=v+[C^v]'|C=u
yeilds
[u^v]'=C*[u^(C-1)]*u'|C=v+[C^v]'+[C^v]*log(C)*v'|C=u
[u^v]'=v*[u^(v-1)]*u'+[u^v]*log(u)*v'
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
755
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
5K
  • · Replies 49 ·
2
Replies
49
Views
7K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
4K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K