Electric Potential of a Finite Rod

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The problem involves calculating the electric potential at a distance from a finite rod with a uniform charge distribution. The rod is positioned along the x-axis, and the task is to derive an expression for the electric potential in terms of the distance from the center of the rod, its length, and total charge.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to set up the integral for the electric potential but is uncertain about the correct bounds for integration. They express confusion regarding the limits of integration and the relationship between the distance and the charge elements.
  • Some participants question the interpretation of the variable x in the integral, suggesting it represents the distance from the charge elements to the point of interest, leading to a discussion about the appropriate limits for integration.
  • One participant provides a potential expression for the electric potential, indicating a realization about the correct bounds after considering the feedback from others.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the setup of the integral. Some guidance has been offered regarding the limits of integration, which has prompted further reflection and clarification among participants.

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There is an indication that the original poster receives instant feedback on their answers, which may influence their approach to the problem. The discussion includes various interpretations of the integration bounds, reflecting the complexity of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


The figure shows a thin rod of length L and charge Q. It lies directly along the x-axis with its center at the origin. Find an expression for the electric potential a distance x away from the center of the rod on the axis of the rod. (Give your answer in terms of x, L, Q and appropriate constants.)

Homework Equations


V=Q/(4\pi\epsilon_{0}x)
\lambda=Q/L

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that I have to integrate each infinitesimal potential, but I am not sure what bounds to integrate over? Here is what I have done so far:

dQ=\lambda*dx
dV=dQ/(4\pi\epsilon_{0}x)=\lambda*dx/(4\pi\epsilon_{0}x)

Now, when both sides are integrated the result is:

V=\lambda/(4\pi\epsilon_{0})\int(1/x)dx

The integral becomes a natural log. I have tried with several combinations of lower boundaries (0, -L/2, +L/2) and upper boundaries (L/2, x) but none of my results are correct (I get instant feedback on whether my answer is correct).

Thanks!
 
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Isn't the x of your integral the distance from the discrete element charges to the point X, so the range of the distances is x-L/2 and x-3L/2 for E field along the + x-axis?
 
LowlyPion said:
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Isn't the x of your integral the distance from the discrete element charges to the point X, so the range of the distances is x-L/2 and x-3L/2 for E field along the + x-axis?

\left(\frac{1}{4{\cdot}{\pi}{\cdot}{\epsilon}_{0}}\right){\cdot}\left(\frac{Q}{L}\right){\cdot}{\ln}\left(\frac{2{\cdot}x+L}{2{\cdot}x-L}\right)

This is the correct answer! I'm not sure if what you said is correct but it set off a light bulb in my mind that made me realize that the integration variable had to run from x-L/2 to x+L/2! Thanks for your insight, and your welcome to the PF.
 
eckz59 said:
\left(\frac{1}{4{\cdot}{\pi}{\cdot}{\epsilon}_{0}}\right){\cdot}\left(\frac{Q}{L}\right){\cdot}{\ln}\left(\frac{2{\cdot}x+L}{2{\cdot}x-L}\right)

This is the correct answer! I'm not sure if what you said is correct but it set off a light bulb in my mind that made me realize that the integration variable had to run from x-L/2 to x+L/2! Thanks for your insight, and your welcome to the PF.

Right. I was sloppy in the 3/2 because that distance is x+L/2 to the other end. Glad you caught my error and it didn't mislead but rather served to possibly inspire.
 

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