Radius of Curvature Derivation for Bending of Beam w/Overhangs

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The discussion focuses on deriving the radius of curvature for a simply supported beam with overhangs using geometric methods. The initial approach involved applying the Pythagorean theorem, leading to the expression ρ=(δ/2)+(L²/8δ). A participant confirms that using Pythagoras is acceptable but suggests that a method using similar triangles could be quicker and less error-prone. There is some confusion regarding a missing factor of 2 in the derivation, which one participant acknowledges after attempting the similar triangles method. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding different geometric approaches to solving the problem.
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Homework Statement



Derive an expression geometrically for the radius of curvature of the following beam. This is part of a lab assignment for the bending of a simply supported beam with overhangs.

** I did this crappy diagram with AutoCAD, so I couldn't ( or didn't know how to ) include greek letters. Let's let r= \rho, and d= \delta for my derivation.

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a2+b2=c2

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I just used the pythagorean theorem to solve for \rho.

Starting with: \rho2= (\rho-\delta)2+(L/2)2.

Factoring out (\rho-\delta)2 , solving for \rho and simplifying , I end up with the following expression:

\rho=(\delta/2)+(L2/8\delta)I guess I have this question...is this the proper way to derive the radius of curvature geometrically? Is it ok to do it this way?
 

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Freyster98 said:
Derive an expression geometrically for the radius of curvature of the following beam.

I just used the pythagorean theorem to solve for \rho.

Starting with: \rho2= (\rho-\delta)2+(L/2)2.

Factoring out (\rho-\delta)2 , solving for \rho and simplifying , I end up with the following expression:

\rho=(\delta/2)+(L2/8\delta)

I guess I have this question...is this the proper way to derive the radius of curvature geometrically? Is it ok to do it this way?

Hi Freyster98! :smile:

(have a rho: ρ and a delta: δ :wink:)

Yes, Pythagoras is fine :smile: (though you seem to have lost a factor of 2 somewhere :confused:).

But there is quicker method (with less likelihood of a mistake):

Hint: similar triangles :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Freyster98! :smile:

(have a rho: ρ and a delta: δ :wink:)

Yes, Pythagoras is fine :smile: (though you seem to have lost a factor of 2 somewhere :confused:).

But there is quicker method (with less likelihood of a mistake):

Hint: similar triangles :wink:


I ran through it a few times...I don't see where I'm losing a factor of 2.
 
sorry … my similar triangles method (have you tried that yet?) gave me the diameter, not the radius :rolleyes:

so i got an extra 2 :redface:
 
tiny-tim said:
sorry … my similar triangles method (have you tried that yet?) gave me the diameter, not the radius :rolleyes:

so i got an extra 2 :redface:

Ok, thanks. No, I haven't tried the similar triangles because, well, I don't get it :rolleyes:
 
Freyster98 said:
Ok, thanks. No, I haven't tried the similar triangles because, well, I don't get it :rolleyes:

ok … the triangle with sides d and L/2 is similar to the triangle with sides L/2 and … ? :smile:
 
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