Trig integration (cos(x)+sin(x)) / sin(2x)

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function \(\int \frac{cos(x) + sin(x)}{sin(2x)}dx\), which involves trigonometric identities and properties. Participants are exploring the implications of using the identity \(sin(2x) = 2sin(x)cos(x)\) in their attempts to simplify the integral.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of the integral using trigonometric identities and express uncertainty about the correctness of their approaches. Some question the validity of the simplifications made, particularly regarding the integration of \(\csc(x)\) and the resulting logarithmic forms. Others explore the equivalence of different forms of the integral and the implications of absolute values in their expressions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts. Some express confidence in their results, while others suggest reconsidering certain steps or interpretations. There is a recognition of different forms of the integral, and participants are engaging in a deeper exploration of the relationships between these forms.

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Participants are navigating potential discrepancies in integral forms and the role of absolute values in their solutions. There is an acknowledgment of varying conventions in presenting the integral of \(\csc(x)\), which may contribute to the confusion.

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Prepping for my test, and I can't seem to solve this problem.

Homework Statement



\int \frac{cos(x) + sin(x)}{sin(2x)}dx

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Not sure if it led me astray, but I used the trig. property:

sin(2x) = 2sin(x)cos(x)

The Attempt at a Solution



= \int \frac{cos(x) + sin(x)}{2sin(x)cos(x)}dx

= 1/2 \int(csc(x) + sec(x))dx

= 1/2ln|csc(x) - cot(x)| + 1/2ln|sec(x) + tan(x)| + C

= 1/2 ln|csc(x)sec(x) + sec(x) - csc(x) - 1| + C

I feel like this is wrong, but not sure where I'm messing up. Maybe my trig. property isn't the way to go.
 
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Looks good to me except you need + C.:cool:
 
I would keep the answer in the form of the line before the last one. There's one little mistake in that line, though.
∫cscx dx = -ln|cscx + cotx| + C, not ln|cscx - cotx|
 
Bohrok said:
I would keep the answer in the form of the line before the last one. There's one little mistake in that line, though.
∫cscx dx = -ln|cscx + cotx| + C, not ln|cscx - cotx|

Uhh...

LHS=ln\left(\frac{1}{cscx+cotx}\right)

=ln\left(\frac{1}{\frac{1}{sinx}+\frac{cosx}{sinx}}\right)

=ln\left(\frac{sinx}{1+cosx}\right)


RHS=ln\left(\frac{1}{sinx}-\frac{cosx}{sinx}\right)

=ln\left(\frac{1-cosx}{sinx}\right)


Now, let's assume:ln\left(\frac{sinx}{1+cosx}\right)=ln\left(\frac{1-cosx}{sinx}\right)

ln\left(\frac{sinx}{1+cosx}\right)-ln\left(\frac{1-cosx}{sinx}\right)=0

ln\left(\frac{(\frac{sinx}{1+cosx})}{(\frac{1-cosx}{sinx})}\right)=0

ln\left(\frac{sin^2x}{1-cos^2x}\right)=0

ln\left(\frac{1-cos^2x}{1-cos^2x}\right)=0

ln(1)=0

Therefore, they are equivalent.
 
Graphically, it looks like they are the same if you ignore the absolute values. LHS - RHS looks like 0 on wolframalpha, but with absolute values, the graph of their difference is not 0.
 
I re-checked my work and didn't seem to find any errors or possibilities of extraneous solutions etc. so I graphed it as well, but on graphmatica. It seems that with or without absolute values, both functions are equal. If you believe you haven't made a mistake, please post a picture of what you see on wolfram :smile:
 
Ok, there is no difference between our integrals of cscx. I didn't recognize the other form immediately (I never worked with ∫cscx dx by itself either) so I thought it was wrong. Looking at the table of integrals in my calc book, I see that same integral, ln|cscx - cotx| and I did find it by looking on the internet, but apparently that form is not as common as the other one.

I learn something new almost every day on this site. :smile:
 
cool discussion guys. I just worked the integral of csc(x) on my own, and I came up with that funky version. Didn't realize it was less common :).
 

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