How Do You Calculate the Capacitance of a Multi-Layer Spherical Capacitor?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the capacitance of a multi-layer spherical capacitor with different dielectric materials. The setup involves a vacuum region, followed by two layers with dielectric constants κ1 and κ2. The user initially struggles with the three-dimensional nature of the problem and the appropriate equations, particularly for electric field (E) and voltage (V). After clarifying the positions of the conductors and correcting their capacitance formula, they acknowledge the need to treat the capacitors in series due to differing dielectrics. The conversation concludes with the user expressing gratitude for the guidance received.
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Homework Statement


Calculate the capacitance of a spherical capacitor such that its center and up to R_2 is vacuum.
Then from R_2 up to R_3 there's a dielectric material of constant \kappa _2. Then from R_3 up to R_1 there's a material of constant \kappa _1.

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I've tried many things, but then I realized I was lost since it's a 3 dimensional capacitor, which differs from the 2 dimensional problem I was used to.
Q=C/V. Also, \varepsilon _1=\kappa _1 \varepsilon _0. And it's similar for \varepsilon _2.
V=-\int_a^b \vec E d\vec l=\frac{Q}{C}.
I'm having a hard time finding -\int_a^b \vec E d\vec l.
For the interior material, V=E(R_3 -R_2).

I made an attempt to find E : kQ\left [ \frac{1}{R_3}-\frac{1}{R_2} \right]. Where k=\frac{1}{\varepsilon _0 \kappa _2 4\pi}.
Hence C _2=\frac{4\pi \varepsilon _0 \kappa _2 R_3 R_2}{R_2-R_3}.

I realize that \frac{1}{C}=\frac{1}{C_1}+\frac{1}{C_2} because the capacitor is equivalent to 2 capacitors in series. I'd like to know if my result for C_2, the interior capacitor is right.
 
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First you need to derive (or look up) the capacitance of a spherical capacitor. The geometry, however, is incomplete. A capacitor, in general, is two conductors in some spatial configuration. Your statement of the problem says nothing about where the conductors are. What are the radii at which you have the conductors in this particular case?
 
kuruman said:
First you need to derive (or look up) the capacitance of a spherical capacitor. The geometry, however, is incomplete. A capacitor, in general, is two conductors in some spatial configuration. Your statement of the problem says nothing about where the conductors are. What are the radii at which you have the conductors in this particular case?

You're absolutely right, sorry. The conductor plates are at R_1 and R_2.
I've looked in wikipedia, and instead of my C _2=\frac{4\pi \varepsilon _0 \kappa _2 R_3 R_2}{R_2-R_3}, I should have got a -sign in front of it... so I almost got it, I don't know where I made a mistake though and I'm willing to see where it is. Although I realize I could have made other errors.
 
So you know what to do now, right? Two capacitors in series, each with a different dielectric.
 
kuruman said:
So you know what to do now, right? Two capacitors in series, each with a different dielectric.
Yes sure.

\frac{1}{C}=\frac{1}{C_1}+\frac{1}{C_2}.
Assuming my C_2 as my result with a minus sign, I can get C_1 as easily and thus C, which is the total capacitance.
I thank you for your help. (Once again :smile:).
 
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