Proving the Equality of Logarithms with Different Bases

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To prove that 1/log_a b = log_b a, one can start with the identity b^{log_b a} = a and take the logarithm base a of both sides. This allows for the application of logarithmic properties to manipulate the equation and derive the desired result. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding logarithms as inverse functions of exponentials. Additionally, it emphasizes that there are multiple methods to arrive at the same conclusion. Mastery of these fundamental identities and properties is essential for solving logarithmic equations effectively.
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Homework Statement



How would I show that 1/logab = logba ?


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I'm not really sure where to start because of the different bases.
 
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Hint: What is b^{\log_b a}?
 
Tide said:
Hint: What is b^{\log_b a}?

Is that Power Laws of Logs or Techniques for solving exponential equations, because I haven't learned those yet. :confused:
We haven't learned anything with logs as exponents yet.
 
That would be a fundamental identity for logarithms and should have been the first thing you learned about them. Basically, exponentials and logarithms are inverse functions of each other. Check with your textbook. :)
 
Tide said:
That would be a fundamental identity for logarithms and should have been the first thing you learned about them. Basically, exponentials and logarithms are inverse functions of each other. Check with your textbook. :)

Yes, we learned how to write an exponentials as a log and vice versa, and we learned how to evaulate logs, like log28 where x=3. But we haven't seen anything with "log___" as the actual exponent before. :S
 
What you need to know is that

\log_b b^a = a and b^{\log_b a} = a
 
Tide said:
What you need to know is that

\log_b b^a = a and b^{\log_b a} = a

I found this online:
"Remember that logb a = log a / log b for any base/subscript.

Then 1 / [loga b] = 1 / [log b / log a]

Now dividing by a fraction is the same as mulitplying its reciproical.

1 * (log a / log b)

log a / log b

Now use the fact at the top to change this into
log a / log b = logb a
Therefore, 1 / [loga b] = logb a."

Is that the same thing you were talking about?

We have a quiz on:
Exponential function + its inverse
Logarithms (simple problems)
Transformations of log functions
Using log scales in physical sciences (ex: pH scale)
and Exponential equations.

I'm familiar with all of those, but when I overheard someone from the other class talking about this question right after their quiz, I was curious, so that's why I asked...
 
I think Tide was going for this approach:

Start with b^{\log_b a} = a and then take the log, base a, of both sides to get

\log_a (b^{\log_b a}) = \log_a a

Use a property of logs to bring the exponent down, do a little algebra, and you'll get the result you wanted.

The way you did it is fine as well. There are often multiple ways to show the same thing.
 
Vela,

Exactly! I had assumed the original poster hadn't seen the base conversion yet.
 
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