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What does "GOP" (values) stand for?selfAdjoint said:Because intelligent people with the GOP values ("He who dies with the most toys wins") won't be satisfied with the low pay in academia.
Gokul43201 said:Mostly, the GoP stands for : less Government; less regulation; fiscal conservatism; reduction of restrictions on firearms use; prohibition of abortion and stem cell research; prevention of gay marriage; business over environment; projecting and employing military might as the best means of deterrence; privatization of social security; less (and flatter) taxes; more death penalty; elimination of welfare programs; more capitalism in general.
I think I got many of the main ideas - I may have missed a few.
PS : GOP itself stands for Grand Ol' Party
phatmonky said:-States' rights on gay marriage, not prevention of.
Gokul43201 said:Yes, the GoP is a strong proponent of State's Rights, but then wouldn't the Bush proposal for amendment be in conflict with GoP ideas. Why does this proposal have such strong backing from the GoP faithful, then ?
(The rest of this thread is meant in a lighter vein...so don't get mad.)
setAI said:I grow more and more tired of the folk/media political philosophy that conservativism and liberalism are like equal opposite views with a balanced debate of the issues-
let me be clear and unambiguous: the reason why virtually all "smart" and educated/scientific/artistic people are liberals is simply because for the most part- what is called the "liberal/progressive agenda" is essentially the most REASONABLE/ CORRECT/ LOGICAL/ETHICAL and SENSIBLE way to order a society of intelligent beings-
the conservative ideology is both economically and ethically bankrupt- totally bereft of logic or compassion- and is nothing more than primitive illusions/ lies/ misunderstandings kludged into an untenable ideology ultimately designed to preserve and justify a narrow view/method of society by force and terror and ignorance
the conservative ideology is not in competition with the liberal/progressive ideology- conservativism is a primitive and fear-driven memetic parasite which acts to limit and threaten the health/optimized/balanced/proper development and maintenance of society- the liberal/progressive ideologies represent an optimal holistic balance while conservativism attempts to isolate and monopolize a small portion of society: a cancer-
it is time for all of those people with IQs over 80 that are NOT ruled by their material selfishness and/or the cultivated fears/prejudices of their childhood leading to dangerously fanatical deism to proclaim this truth- conservativism is not another view- it is a sickness of the collective soul-
in the future people with conservative views will be correctly diagnosed as suffering from forms of sociopathic neuroses [and treated]- it is nothing more than dangerous psychosocial dysfunction
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I know some may think this is radicalism- sure it is- but it happens to be an accurate assesment based on all the anthropological/sociological evidence available- and these people threaten the continued existence of life on earth- so it is long past time to draw the line and state the truth before we are all destroyed
phatmonky said:From your post, I'm not sure you realized that Bush is not pushing for a gay marriage ban anymore. He has moved to a push for allowing states to disregard full faith and credit in regards to gay marriage, thus allowing each state to determine what they will recognize.
check said:I think all voters should take a ‘political compass’ test. Just answer a bunch of Strongly disagree to strongly agree questions and find out where you actually fit and which party you should vote on based on your beliefs and not some preconceived notion that one party is better than another.
I finally go around to doing a bunch of those. I thought I was pretty liberal… turns out I’m pretty far left, lol. Oh well.
BobG said:Here's an interesting poll on individual's stand on the issues vs. their perception of the candidates views.
http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/naes/2004_03_voter-have-much-to-learn_09-29_pr.pdf
Of particular note, 43% oppose Bush's policy towards privatizing Social Security and only 37% agree. 44% agree with Kerry's policy and only 36% disagree. For the record, 56% favor privatization and 36% oppose.
This group also does some off the wall surveys. Turns out that people who watch late night comedy shows know more about current politics than those who don't watch late night comedy shows. Daily Show viewers are more savvy about current politics than Jay Leno or David Letterman viewers.
Smurf said:Hopefully they won't get to us first.
setAI said:I grow more and more tired of the folk/media political philosophy that conservativism and liberalism are like equal opposite views with a balanced debate of the issues-
let me be clear and unambiguous: the reason why virtually all "smart" and educated/scientific/artistic people are liberals is simply because for the most part- what is called the "liberal/progressive agenda" is essentially the most REASONABLE/ CORRECT/ LOGICAL/ETHICAL and SENSIBLE way to order a society of intelligent beings-
the conservative ideology is both economically and ethically bankrupt- totally bereft of logic or compassion- and is nothing more than primitive illusions/ lies/ misunderstandings kludged into an untenable ideology ultimately designed to preserve and justify a narrow view/method of society by force and terror and ignorance
the conservative ideology is not in competition with the liberal/progressive ideology- conservativism is a primitive and fear-driven memetic parasite which acts to limit and threaten the health/optimized/balanced/proper development and maintenance of society- the liberal/progressive ideologies represent an optimal holistic balance while conservativism attempts to isolate and monopolize a small portion of society: a cancer-
it is time for all of those people with IQs over 80 that are NOT ruled by their material selfishness and/or the cultivated fears/prejudices of their childhood leading to dangerously fanatical deism to proclaim this truth- conservativism is not another view- it is a sickness of the collective soul-
in the future people with conservative views will be correctly diagnosed as suffering from forms of sociopathic neuroses [and treated]- it is nothing more than dangerous psychosocial dysfunction
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I know some may think this is radicalism- sure it is- but it happens to be an accurate assesment based on all the anthropological/sociological evidence available- and these people threaten the continued existence of life on earth- so it is long past time to draw the line and state the truth before we are all destroyed
...Those who can't teach, coach. Those who can't coach, teach history.Robert Zaleski said:Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
Smurf said:Those who can't coach, teach History. Those who can't teach history, make history.
Wonder why democrats hold all the intellectual positions in Society?phatmonky said:Those who can't make history...
eh, nevermind.
Lol, I'm not sure what you expect from me...he seems a little extremist and I'm not sure I fit the "conservative" label. I'm more of a disenchanted left winged right handed independent. I'd probably vote democratic if I saw the true "leftist" ideals there..but I don't. What I see is a lot of "stay the same stay them same" and way tooo much soft bigotry trying to display itself as rightous indignation. I remember when the left fought for freedom and human rights for the down trodden, even if they were brown, olive or black and not American. The presumed "Liberal Left" seems to mouth a lot of platitudes but they're not doing a whole hell of a lot to improve the lives of the downtrodden.Smurf said:I can't wait for Kat to see this
because honey...they just can't make it in the real world.Smurf said:Wonder why democrats hold all the intellectual positions in Society?
Conservatives favor traditional views and values and oppose change.Smurf said:You definately come off as Conservative. Definitly