Need to find the equivalence point volume from the first derivative graph?

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The discussion revolves around determining the equivalence point volume from a first derivative graph of a titration experiment involving NaOH and acetic acid. The professor advised drawing two trend lines from either side of the graph, with their intersection indicating the equivalence volume. Participants noted that while the equivalence point should ideally correspond to the highest slope, measurement inaccuracies may affect this. The consensus suggests that the equivalence point is around 19.97 mL, slightly adjusted from the initial estimate of 19.9 mL. Accurate trend line placement is crucial for a reliable determination of the equivalence point.
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Homework Statement



This was done in a lab, we titrated 0.2M NaOH with an unknown concentration of acetic acid.
I've used excel to graph my first derivative of the data.

Homework Equations


(change in pH)/(Change in volume)

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My professor talked about drawing two trend lines, one from the left and the other from the right, and wherever they intersected, would be the equivalence volume. I'm just wondering if My trend lines should go through those two points at the top? I remember him saying not to force the lines to intersect at the highest point. But isn't it true that the equivalence point will have the largest slope?

Anyway, to me, the equivalence point volume looks to be around 19.9 mL

Did I do this right?
 

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crimsonn said:
My professor talked about drawing two trend lines, one from the left and the other from the right, and wherever they intersected, would be the equivalence volume. I'm just wondering if My trend lines should go through those two points at the top? I remember him saying not to force the lines to intersect at the highest point. But isn't it true that the equivalence point will have the largest slope?
In a perfect world, the equivalence point would have the highest slope. But since all your measurements have some degree of inaccuracy (and slope measurements in particular can be very inaccurate), the equivalence point might not correspond exactly to your highest slope point. Don't force your lines to go right through the top points, but don't ignore them. It would be best if you can choose trend lines that come fairly close to all the points.

Anyway, to me, the equivalence point volume looks to be around 19.9 mL

Did I do this right?
I would think somewhat to the right of 19.9, but I understand how you got that. I think you have the right idea.
 
Alright, thank you -- the part about whether to draw them through the top two points was the most confusing. I printed it out and drew the trend lines, and I agree that's its more like 19.97mL.
 
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