What Makes Canada a Great Place to Live?

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Life in Canada, particularly in Vancouver, is appealing due to its beautiful scenery, clean air, and a liberal social environment that values personal freedoms, including the decriminalization of marijuana and acceptance of diverse lifestyles. The healthcare system, while not perfect, offers free treatment for non-life-threatening issues, and crime rates, including homicides, are relatively low compared to the U.S. Canadians are known for their friendliness, and the multicultural atmosphere, especially in cities like Toronto, enhances the quality of life. However, potential newcomers should be prepared for cold winters and the need for patience in healthcare wait times. Overall, Canada presents a welcoming alternative for those seeking a change from the current political climate in the U.S.
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I am interested in hearing about life in Canada; Vancouver BC in particular. Tsu and I have considered leaving the US for many years. In light of the election we are more serious than ever. This place is getting scary!

Please give your best sales pitch for your best place to live outside of the US.
 
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Come to Brunei, the country where there hasn't been a murder case for years, and where no one is intelligent enough to even contemplate murder/suicide.

In short, it's a great life here.

EDIT: Oh, there is just one more thing I would like to add. The population of Brunei numbers only 350,000 so you might get a little lonely from talking to the trees. However, that's better than talking to the bush, isn't it? :wink:
 
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Hrm... while I'm not in BC, Ontario is great too!

We have tons of scenery and CLEAN air. Lots of nature around and it is beautiful many times of the year. Not too hot in the summer, winters you might need to adjust to.

In Canada we value liberty and are more liberal than those south of the border. Decriminalization of MJ will be happening sooner than later it seems. We don't ban things like gay marriage? Even if these two don't affect you at all it is still reflective of how great we are.

You can still buy guns here, just not concealed carry (or carry at all for that matter).

Healthcare isn't the greatest but it isn't too bad either. If you can't sit for a couple hours in the ER for non life threatening treatment when it is FREE then you can...go fly a kite ;)

THE BEER AND THE WOMEN are reason enough to come over to the dark side :biggrin:

You can always take pride and feel secure in the fact neither Iran or NK will light a nuke off on your a$$ when reich marshal instates your next war.

Religion isn't nearly as big here nor does it rule our politics.

Our students perform above the USA in school rankings so it would be a better place to raise children.

Crime? Murders? The total number of homicides in Canada is pretty darn small (around 600 yearly). While we have less people the incidence rate is much smaller too.

Toronto is the multicultural city in the world? (reflects our acceptance of everyone)

The question you should ask yourself is why DON'T you want to come here? :smile:
 
recon said:
Come to Brunei, the country where there hasn't been a murder case for years, and where no one is intelligent enough to even contemplate murder/suicide.

In short, it's a great life here.

EDIT: Oh, there is just one more thing I would like to add. The population of Brunei numbers only 350,000 so you might get a little lonely from talking to the trees. However, that's better than talking to the bush, isn't it? :wink:


But the tress don't spout fundamentalism at you, remember that.
 
franznietzsche said:
But the tress don't spout fundamentalism at you,

No ? go down to texas
 
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tumor said:
No ? go down to texas

Touche. I concede.
 
:smile: @ tumor and franz
 
I was just reading what the CIA factbook had to say about Brunei and I have some questions.
What is Shari's Law?
Does Brunei have a parliament?
How much power does the Sultanate have?
How much tension is there with Malaysia?
Is there segregation in Brunei and how bad is it? (paticularly between muslims and Christians)
 
Everything you want to know about Canada you can find by listening to Arrogant Worms. :smile: :smile:


Every Canadian is given a radioactive MAPLE LEAF TATTOO right on their FOREHEAD so that the EVIL OVERLORDS in ONTARIO can TRACK them! But it's only visible if you're from ONTARIO!
sad but true... :cry:
http://www.thoughtviper.com/inexob/canada.html
 
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The only bad thing about Canada is that it's full of Canadians. And it's such a pain buying anything. I don't think they accept Canadian coins even in Canada.

I remember reading the Guiness Book of World Records when I was little and the kid who got the biggest allowance was from Brunei. He got several hundred thousand every week if I remember correctly.
 
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Ivan, Vancouver is a wonderful and beautiful international city that embraces many different cultures. I would be very curious to know what it would take for an American to become a citizen there. While I do have faith that America can be one of the greatest nations, I also think the whole censorship in general will begin to infringe on our liberties more and more because we have a government now dominated by conservatives.

The people are wonderful there, at least in BC. There aren't issues like we have here, I think Canada can set a great example to Americans of how to behave. The drawback of Canada is many parts are frigid cold. That for me is hard to deal with, but I guess to others, the rain in my part of the world is hard for some to deal with as well. I am just so used to it, I don't even think twice about it let alone bring an umbrella.

Anyone know what it takes for an American to become a Canadian citizen without having to marry one? I heard you need a lot of money and an attorney, but that's it.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Please give your best sales pitch for your best place to live outside of the US.

Come to Spain. Here you are allowed to say anything stupid and non sense, without having nobody scolding you for doing that. That's our democracy.

Also, you will have the best food in the world, the best red wine (surely you will put on weight). You can dance in discotheques and go to pubs until the 4 A.M. without being afraid for disturbing the neighbors (f..ck them!). This is, again our democracy.

And for being a foreign man, the police will never fine you, because the fines are only for spanish people (that's our burocracy).

If you want something more, and if you hate USA, nevermind!. Here our government is arising an anti-americanism campaign, believing increduly that another european governments will make the same instead of bending their knees in front of Bush (that's our intelligent prime minister).

In fact you will pay some time of fun and food with high taxes and low journals, and with a poor technologic and social situation.

Come to Spain!
 
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Kerrie said:
Ivan, Vancouver is a wonderful and beautiful international city that embraces many different cultures. I would be very curious to know what it would take for an American to become a citizen there. While I do have faith that America can be one of the greatest nations, I also think the whole censorship in general will begin to infringe on our liberties more and more because we have a government now dominated by conservatives.

The people are wonderful there, at least in BC. There aren't issues like we have here, I think Canada can set a great example to Americans of how to behave. The drawback of Canada is many parts are frigid cold. That for me is hard to deal with, but I guess to others, the rain in my part of the world is hard for some to deal with as well. I am just so used to it, I don't even think twice about it let alone bring an umbrella.

Anyone know what it takes for an American to become a Canadian citizen without having to marry one? I heard you need a lot of money and an attorney, but that's it.
Try taking this:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/assess/Education.asp
 
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Smurf said:
What is Sharia's Law?
Sharia's Law is an Islamic law. You can do a search on it online.

Does Brunei have a parliament? How much power does the Sultanate have?
The parliament reopened just a few weeks ago. However, the Sultan still retains absolute power. More here.

How much tension is there with Malaysia?
There are some territorial disputes on land, and more recently, offshore in the oil and gas ridge areas of the deepwater offshore. The two governments are still on very friendly terms.

Is there segregation in Brunei and how bad is it? (paticularly between muslims and Christians?
As in any other country, there is segregation to some degree. However, it is no worse than in Singapore.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
I am interested in hearing about life in Canada; Vancouver BC in particular. Tsu and I have considered leaving the US for many years. In light of the election we are more serious than ever. This place is getting scary!

Please give your best sales pitch for your best place to live outside of the US.

I think this is a great idea. There are so many different style governments throughout the world that it makes perfect sense to find a government you like then move to that country.

As seen with our last election most Americans like the USA just the way it is. We don't want socialism. We like the pledge of alligence just the way it is. We don't want to see two guys making out in the park when playing frisbee with our kids. Christmas is the celibration of the birth of Christ!

So I think this is a great idea I just wish more complainers would follow your lead and leave. This would also make the presidental election a little less stressful.

Goodbye.

P.S. Take Michael Moore with you! :devil:
 
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kawikdx225 said:
I think this is a great idea. There are so many different style governments throughout the world that it makes perfect sense to find a government you like then move to that country.

As seen with our last election most Americans like the USA just the way it is. We don't want socialism. We like the pledge of alligence just the way it is. We don't want to see two guys making out in the park when playing frisbee with our kids. Christmas is the celibration of the birth of Christ!

So I think this is a great idea I just wish more complainers would follow your lead and leave. This would also make the presidental election a little less stressful.

Goodbye.

P.S. Take Michael Moore with you! :devil:

and here lies why Americans have a negative reputation...
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
I am interested in hearing about life in Canada; Vancouver BC in particular. Tsu and I have considered leaving the US for many years. In light of the election we are more serious than ever. This place is getting scary!

Please give your best sales pitch for your best place to live outside of the US.

I want to feel good about humanity and here in the U.S. I can't. Things are getting worse with no end in sight. I'm with you, life somewhere is what I need. But I'm not sure I can just turn my back on what's going on here.. I'm still thinking about it.
 
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take it from someone whos lived from one end of the country to another, every province is different the people the climat and the scenery, they are all gorgous(in there own way), generaly people are friendly and courtyous, you'll have to visit to find what you really re looking for, BC is gorgeous, if you like skiing the the mountains are right there, in the summer you want to go surfing, you can do that too, winter is mild and temperate(but it rains lots), summer is no too hot either.
but Ontario has a lot to offer also, i won't list everything but its worth a visit that's for sure

oh and our beer and women are great
 
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It seems that we are not alone. This morning the Canadian government released a statement to Americans reminding them the they must immigrate like everyone else. Luckily - according to the Canadian immigration site - as degreed professionals Tsu and I stand a good chance of getting in.

There was also a map shown on the news [source unknown] that shows the United States of Canada, which includes the western and NE Kerry states, and Jesusland down below in red. :rolleyes:
 
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Thanks for the input so far. It sounds great! Note also that any advice about finding jobs is appreciated. I may be able to find contract work but I don't know the Canadian laws yet. Here I am self employed as a systems integrator. Am I likely to be able to continue? I know the customers are there... Next, Tsu is an X-Ray/CT technologist. Does anyone know about the life of a medical workers in Canada?
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Next, Tsu is an X-Ray/CT technologist. Does anyone know about the life of a medical workers in Canada?
frostbite...moose attacks...alcohol poisoning
that should about cover it.
 
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kawikdx225 said:
So I think this is a great idea I just wish more complainers would follow your lead and leave... Goodbye.

P.S. Take Michael Moore with you! :devil:

I never saw F911 and I don't care about Moore. I am a Christian who accepts Jesus, but not Bush as his saviour. Would you like to throw some rocks at my car as we leave...in the name of Jesus?

You won. We give up. Why the hostility?
 
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My Dad lives in Vancouver but I'm on the East Coast. From my experience Vancouver B.C. is the most beautiful city I've ever scene. I find the air quality magnificent and the weather to be great in Vancouver.

The cost of buying an apartment or a house is outragous in Vancouver though. Medical professions and most other professions probably receive less pay; however, in Canada I haven't heard tell of anyone with a good education and decent people skills not finding work and getting by - but I'm young.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
I never saw F911 and I don't care about Moore. I am a Christian who accepts Jesus, but not Bush as his saviour. Would you like to throw some rocks at my car as we leave...in the name of Jesus?

You won. We give up. Why the hostility?

Please accept my open invitation potential citizen A343DWZ-37684243

Well you have to give those ideals up if want to come to Canada. We have no use for your ideas and free speech. A mandatory 3 year state driven integration session must be taken to determine your state appointed job and sleeping location.
I await your response at my allocated position.
Regards, Canadian Government
Immigration Officer DW2543-364534241
---------------------------------------------

Man, did you ever call our number. Please save us from our communism in Canada. Who is this Jesus you speak of?
 
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obviously we have some anti-socialists too

There's a small island off the coast from my town called Denmon Island, its densly populated and 80% american from the draft. Just something I thought I'd share.

Cancel your Canada plans, the Conservatives just privatized our healthcare and sold them to an American company.
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No? Not sinking in? then get this:
The FBI can phone up the American company and get any information on Canadian citizens they have and you won't know about it.

I'm moving to Europe, I hear brussels is nice.
 
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BC has privatized healthcare now - what is this? I haven't heard anything on the news about that.
 
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Was Canada the 49th or the 50th state? I never can get it straight.
 
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tribdog said:
Was Canada the 49th or the 50th state? I never can get it straight.

That's such a poor 'joke.' It makes absolutely no sense. But is that seriously the mindset of a lot of Americans? That Canada is just like the States or aspires to be or is more or less controlled by America? :confused:
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. President Bush did think our Prime Minister was Jean Poutine at one point.
 
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check said:
That's such a poor 'joke.' It makes absolutely no sense. But is that seriously the mindset of a lot of Americans? That Canada is just like the States or aspires to be or is more or less controlled by America? :confused:


no offense to tribdog, but yes, that is the arrogant mindset of many americans...
 
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Lol. I share the opinion of lots of Americans? wow. I don't have that opinion anymore though. I have had a change of heart. I just watched an amazing documentary about Canadian Life. I was really impressed. Especially when Doug says "Take off, you hoser." and his brother Bob says "No! You take off." I didn't realize the struggle that the founding fathers of Canada went through. Americans only had the Red Coats, but Canadians had Beer Companies turning hockey players into zombies. oh, and that National Anthem "Kooo Looo Kuku Kooo Looo cooocoooo." It truly is a "Strange Brew"
 
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You guys have been to the Vancouver's East Hastings street?
HORROR! :eek:
 
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tumor said:
You guys have been to the Vancouver's East Hastings street?
HORROR! :eek:

i was there just in March, yea, a lil scary...
 
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Our medical workers don't get paid as much as the ones in America do due to the healthcare system, but we do sorely need doctors and I you will have enough to live comfortably.
 
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The number of US citizens visiting Canada's main immigration website has shot up six-fold as Americans flirt with the idea of abandoning their homeland after President George Bush's election win this week. [continued]
http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?id=2004110514220002858574&dt=20041105142200&w=RTR&coview=

...Canadian officials made clear on Wednesday that any U.S. citizens so fed up with Bush that they want to make a fresh start up north would have to stand in line like any other would-be immigrants -- a wait that can take up to a year.
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=38018

i%20am%20filled%20with%20the%20love%20of%20Christ!!!.jpg

http://www.brendoman.com/archivesnew/008680.html
 
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That map is hilarious
 
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"God bless his (Arafat) soul"? Gave me the shivers.
 
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great map Ivan, it speaks volumes...
 
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I am a European. Would it be difficult for me to become a Canadian citizen. How are the earnings for someone with a scientific background? Applied physics that is...

regards
marlon
 
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marlon said:
I am a European. Would it be difficult for me to become a Canadian citizen. How are the earnings for someone with a scientific background? Applied physics that is...

regards
marlon

I live in Canada man!,and I have to tell you that Canada does not invest any money into research,you would get bored here,and sooner or later you going to end up in states.
Maybe they invest little though, but I'm ashamed sometimes when i see statistics on percentage of GDP spend on research :redface:
Canada is lucky in having next door neighboor scientific giant like USA, anything interesting done in States always spills to us in Canada.
Otherwise we will be more like Argentina or Brazil.
 
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Virtual Canadian

Looks like we can become virtual Canadians. This was on the site Ivan posted with the map.

Welcome, Virtual Canadians!

This is Virtually Canada.
This is a site for citizens of the United States who no longer wish to be identified with that nation state, or who feel that it has abandoned them, or that it even threatens them.

Many talk about fleeing the United States to Canada, but between the hardships of relocation, and the difficulty of obtaining actual Canadian citizenship, that may not be an option for many. There's also the lingering desire to stay and try to do some good in the States. The solution: become a Virtual Canadian. It's idealist protest, combined with pragmatic reality.

http://virtualcanadian.org/
 
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An American will probably be most comfortable in Alberta or Ontario. Alberta is very American due to the many US companies down there. I've read that around 10% of the people down there are Americans. The economy is probably best there.

IMO, BC is really going downhill. There are a lot more weirdos and rude aholes down there. It looks like the weirdos have left Hastings and spread.

You might want to look at http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/toptencities/experts.html


Come to Brunei, the country where there hasn't been a murder case for years, and where no one is intelligent enough to even contemplate murder/suicide.

Isn't it almost impossible to get a Brunei citizenship?



I am interested in hearing about life in Canada; Vancouver BC in particular. Tsu and I have considered leaving the US for many years. In light of the election we are more serious than ever. This place is getting scary!

Your family hasn't immigrated much, have they?

You make it sound so damn easy. To just move - like customs will simply let you waltz in.

But as you mentioned, you are a science professional so you'll have a better chance. An even better one if you have an education and a good sum of money.

THE BEER AND THE WOMEN are reason enough to come over to the dark side

Maybe in Quebec, but not Ontario.




Our students perform above the USA in school rankings so it would be a better place to raise children.

Isn't the Ontario school system vastly different from that of other Provinces in Canada (excluding Quebec)? Univeresities have different requirements for Ontario schooling.

The problem with the Canadian school system is that they don't really separate students. In the US, they have more money for more classes. In Canada, the bad, average and good students could all get stuck together in the same english, science or math class. The schooling in British Columbia can simply be horrible.



My Dad lives in Vancouver but I'm on the East Coast. From my experience Vancouver B.C. is the most beautiful city I've ever scene. I find the air quality magnificent and the weather to be great in Vancouver.

The cost of buying an apartment or a house is outragous in Vancouver though. Medical professions and most other professions probably receive less pay; however, in Canada I haven't heard tell of anyone with a good education and decent people skills not finding work and getting by - but I'm young.

In BC, I know quite a few people with bachelors in Computer Science or other degrees in technology that can't find work. B.C.'s economy isn't exactly great...or good. They have that new, "acheive BC" program now.

Seeking will be shocked at the prices of houses in B.C. and the tax.


That's such a poor 'joke.' It makes absolutely no sense. But is that seriously the mindset of a lot of Americans? That Canada is just like the States or aspires to be or is more or less controlled by America?

As far as Ontario and Alberta goes - yes. Whether you'd like to admit it or not, have much US influence.
 
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Canada as to my experience is the most PC country in the world,no other country comes even close(USA maybe)
 
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singleton said:
Hrm... while I'm not in BC, Ontario is great too!

Religion isn't nearly as big here nor does it rule our politics.

Our students perform above the USA in school rankings so it would be a better place to raise children.

dunno if this is true but have heard Canada's public education system is worse than US's so maybe that would explain why the students perform better?

i aint american and so I am not being biased or anything.. that's just what I've heard... also, i have cousins and friends who went from my country ( India ) and were in 10th grade in my country and were bumped up to the 11th grade in Canada coz they found the 10th grade in Canada ( in toronto and vancouver ) really easy...
 
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Dagenais said:
Isn't it almost impossible to get a Brunei citizenship?

Unfortunately, this is true. However, you can still enjoy life as an expat in Brunei. Just imagine: 0% income tax, sunny and warm weather all year round, very low crime rate, cheap living, cheap fuel...
 
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If I marry Brunei citizen do I get citizenship in 4-5 years?
 
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Kerrie said:
no offense to tribdog, but yes, that is the arrogant mindset of many americans...

& most Canadian politicians in the last 100yrs or so... I'm more worried about the people we elect selling us out than people like Bush who understandably want all our resources, etc


"You must not take the Militia seriously, for though it is useful for suppressing internal differences, it will not be required for the defence of the country, as the Monroe Doctrine [proclaiming US military hegemony in the Americas] protects us against enemy aggression." - Wilfred Laurier

"the percentage of wholly manufactured commodities which we have been exporting has been continually increasing. In other words, we are getting away from the stage of a country which is selling its raw materials to the stage where as a country we are developing a large manufacturing industry as well... we have reached a higher in our manufacturing development in Canada, having regard to the age of the country an its population, than has, I believe, any other country in the history of the world." - WLM King on US branch plants in Canada
 
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jai6638 said:
dunno if this is true but have heard Canada's public education system is worse than US's so maybe that would explain why the students perform better?

I'm not sure if that's true. I think there's more consistency in the public school system in Canada than in the US in terms of both performance and funding. I've heard of students from my old high school moving to the States for a couple of years and then moving back saying how when they went to school here they were getting 60s-70s. and when they moved to the states they got some of the highest marks in their classes.

i aint american and so I am not being biased or anything.. that's just what I've heard... also, i have cousins and friends who went from my country ( India ) and were in 10th grade in my country and were bumped up to the 11th grade in Canada coz they found the 10th grade in Canada ( in toronto and vancouver ) really easy...

I think this is true of the education system in North America in general. In Asia and Europe and probably other places students are expected to learn faster than students in North America. I think there's much too much 'babying' in elementary and secondary schools in N.America.
 
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I've heard of students from my old high school moving to the States for a couple of years and then moving back saying how when they went to school here they were getting 60s-70s. and when they moved to the states they got some of the highest marks in their classes.

In some BC schools, a high 70 counts as a B, and you won't get an F until you 50%.

In most US schools, a high 70 is a C, while the F scale is at 60%.

School funding may be more consistent in Canada, but rich suburban schools in the US can't be beat by it's BC counterparts.
 
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