Why is there a phase change in reflection and why is it always \pi?

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The discussion revolves around the phase change that occurs during the reflection of light, specifically addressing why a phase shift of \(\pi\) is commonly observed and its implications in contexts such as thin film interference and beam splitters. Participants explore theoretical aspects, mathematical formulations, and practical applications related to optics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the origin of the \(\pi\) phase shift upon reflection and whether it is arbitrary, particularly in the context of beam splitters.
  • One participant explains that for a polarized wave reflecting off a surface, the phase of the electric field must shift by \(\pi\) to maintain the vectorial relationship, although they express uncertainty about the lack of phase change when reflecting from a medium of lower refractive index.
  • Another participant argues that the \(\pi\) phase shift is not universal, especially for thin films, and that different calculations are needed for various types of films.
  • A detailed explanation of the Fresnel equations is provided, indicating that for external reflection (when light reflects off a medium with a higher refractive index), the reflection coefficient is negative, leading to a \(\pi\) phase shift.
  • For internal reflection (when light reflects from a medium with a lower refractive index), the phase shift can be zero or dependent on the angle of incidence, with a critical angle determining the conditions for total internal reflection.
  • Participants discuss the assumption of zero phase shift for light reflecting off the back end of a thin film and question the freedom to choose phase shifts in beam splitter applications despite the dependence on incidence angles and refractive indices.
  • One participant notes that the reflectivity formula varies based on the difference in refractive indices, leading to different phase change behaviors depending on whether light is reflecting into or out of a denser medium.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the universality of the \(\pi\) phase shift, with some asserting it is not applicable in all cases, particularly for thin films. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the assumptions made in thin film interference and the implications of phase shifts in beam splitter scenarios.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the phase shifts associated with different media and reflection scenarios, as well as the need for further exploration of specific cases in optics.

McLaren Rulez
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Hi,

When there is reflection, we generally use the phase shift upon reflection to be \pi. Where does this \pi come from or is it arbitrary? I ask because I came across an optics book which describes beam splitters (a mirror is of course a beam splitter with reflectivity, R=1 and transmittivity, T=0) and as long as we have

e^{ikx} -> \sqrt{T}e^{ikx} + \sqrt{R}e^{i\theta}e^{iky}
e^{iky} -> \sqrt{T}e^{iky} + \sqrt{R}e^{i\theta'}e^{iky}

and \theta+\theta'=\pi

it is perfectly valid to choose any phase shift for the reflected beam. So why is \pi everywhere? In particular, if we talk about thin film interference, the fact that it is \pi seems to be very important.

And on the same note, reflected light will experience a 180 degree phase change when it reflects from a medium of higher index of refraction and no phase change when it reflects from a medium of smaller index. Why is this so?

Thank you!
 
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Just answering the first question (why \pi)

Consider a polarized wave directed perpendicularly towards a plane surface (not to have sines and cosines to mess things up). Be \mathbf{k} the wave vector.
Since the directions of \mathbf{E},\mathbf{B},\mathbf{k} (not their magnitude) are linked by \mathbf{E}\wedge\mathbf{B}=\mathbf{k}, and since the magnetic field does not change in direction on the interface of a medium if the latter has no densities of current on it (div\mathbf{H}=0), when \mathbf{k} is reflected, to maintain the vectorial relationship, the phase of \mathbf{E} has to be shifted from a \pi factor.

I can't answer now (and it's quite disturbing, since I studied it last year) why passing from a medium with higher refractive index to one with a lower on you do not have reflection.
 
McLaren Rulez said:
particular, if we talk about thin film interference, the fact that it is \pi seems to be very important.

I don't have Born and Wolfe in front of me, I'd have to dig it up to explain since it's been many years since I looked at this, but the pi shift is *not* universal at all, particularly for thin films. It's the limit for reflection from a conducting metal surface, as I recall, but it does not apply to thin dielectric films or stacks of films - you have to do more work to calculate the phase shift. I waded into this in some detail while designing an interferometer for a company I worked for, turned out - to my great advantage - that reflection off a non-polarizing beamsplitter was giving me a 40-degree phase shift compared with the transmitted beam coming from the other direction, which was enough for electronic quad counter circuits to treat them as sines and cosines, which turned the system into an interferometer encoder without the need for 1/4 waveplates, polarization splitting, etc.
 
Ok, I studied better this topic in today optical physics, so now I can answer to you properly :D
Some conventions: n=\frac{n_2}{n_1}, where n1 is the first medium and n2 the second, so that you have internal reflection for n<1;
E_{0,i},E_{0,r},E_{0,t} are the amplitudes of the incoming, reflected and transmitted waves.

From Fresnel equation linking the amplitudes of the incoming, the reflected and the transmitted waves, you get the Fresnel coefficient for reflection and transmission:
r=\frac{E_{0,r}}{E_{0,i}}=\frac{\cos(\theta_i)-\sqrt{n^2-\sin^2(\theta_i)}}{\cos(\theta_i)+\sqrt{n^2-\sin^2(\theta_i)}} Actually this expression is for a particular type of waves - the ones with the electric field perpendicular to the incident plane, but the qualitative considerations fit with all the other types since they do not differ too much from this expression.

Now, we have to consider 2 cases: n>1 (external reflection) and n<1 (internal reflection).
1) n>1
If you plot r, you'll see that \forall\theta_i,\,\, r&lt;0
This means that E_{0,r}=rE_{0,i}=-|r|E_{0,i}=|r|E_{0,i}\cdot e^{i\pi}, where I transformed -1=e^{i\pi}
If we consider now the global equation for E, we get

\vec{E_r}=E_{0,r}e^{i\{\vec{k}\cdot\vec{r}-\omega\cdot t\}}<br /> =|r|E_{0,i}e^{i\{\vec{k}\cdot\vec{r}-\omega\cdot t+\pi\}}

As you can see, the reflected wave has a pi phase shift.

2) n<1
For internal reflection things are a bit different: for \theta_i\in[0,\theta_{critical}] (\theta_{critical} is the angle when complete internal reflection occurs, and satisfies \sin\theta_{critical}=n), the phase shift is 0, while for higher \theta_i the phase shift depends on \theta_i. If \phi is the phase shift,
\tan\frac{\phi}{2}=\frac{\sqrt{\sin^2(\theta_i)-n^2}}{\cos(\theta_i)}

This is the analytical explanation. Dunno if it's too complicate :D Hope you are satisfied :D
 
DiracRules said:
I can't answer now (and it's quite disturbing, since I studied it last year) why passing from a medium with higher refractive index to one with a lower on you do not have reflection.

Whenever there is a discontinuity, you get a reflection. Beyond the Critical angle, it's Total, too.
 
Thank you DiracRules for writing it out fully for me. Much appreciated!

Two quick questions:

1) How come in thin film interference, we always assume the light reflecting off the back end of the film undergoes zero phase shift? That seems wrong.

2) For a beam splitter in an optical circuit, how come we have a liberty to choose any \theta and \theta&#039; as long as \theta+\theta&#039;=\pi. Your explanation suggests that the phase shift is always defined based on incidence angle and the refractive indices so how come this freedom exists?
 
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The reflectivity formula depends upon the difference between the two refractive indices. In one case the result is positive and in the other the result is negative. So a phase change for reflection into the more dense and no phase change for reflection going out of the more dense.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/phyopt/reflco.html"
 
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