Guarantee Ax=Bx implies A=B?

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In summary, the conversation discusses whether there are any conditions that guarantee the equivalence of Ax=Bx and A=B for given nxn matrices A and B and an n-vector x. The participants suggest different conditions and examples to consider, including multiplying A by the inverse of B and rearranging the equation. However, it is ultimately determined that there is no condition that makes this implication true for all values of x. A counterexample is provided to show that even if the determinants of A and B are non-zero and not equal, the implication may not hold. Additionally, it is noted that if the implication holds for all x, then A and B must be equal matrices.
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Given nxn matrices A and B, and an n-vector x, are there any conditions that can guarantee Ax=Bx implies A=B? I started thinking about this well working on an assignment. It is clearly not always true, since you can easily think up 2x2 examples where it is not. You can also think up examples where the determinants are non-zero, and not equal to each other, where it still doesn't hold. What conditions if any would make this implication true? Thank you.
 
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Try multiplying A by the inverse of B. :wink:
 
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Rearrange the equation as (A-B)x = 0. Does that help?

Is this supposed to be true for all values of x or just one specific value?
 
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I presume you mean: are there any conditions on x such that if Ax= Bx for that particular x, then Ax= Bx and the answer is no. If x is any single vector (other than 0. If x= 0 then Ax= Bx= 0 for all A, B.) there exist a basis including x.
Define A by Ax= x, Ay= 0 for all other basis vectors y. Let z be a basis vector other than x, define B by Ax= x, Bz= z, By= 0 for all other basis vectors. Then Ax= Bx but A is not equal to B.

Okay, slight error! In that proof there must be some "other" basis vector- if the vector space is one dimensional, and x is not 0, then Ax=Bx implies A= B!

If Ax= Bx for ALL x, then see what happens when you apply A and B to each of (1, 0, 0,...), (0, 1, 0...)...
 
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1. What is the guarantee that Ax=Bx implies A=B?

The guarantee is based on the transitive property of equality, which states that if A=B and B=C, then A=C. In this case, since Ax=Bx and Bx=A, it follows that Ax=A, and therefore A=B.

2. Why is it important to understand this guarantee?

Understanding this guarantee is important in order to properly and accurately solve equations and mathematical problems. It allows us to simplify expressions and make logical deductions based on established identities and properties.

3. Can this guarantee be applied to all matrices?

Yes, this guarantee can be applied to all matrices as long as they have equal dimensions. In other words, both A and B must have the same number of rows and columns in order for the guarantee to hold true.

4. Are there any exceptions to this guarantee?

Yes, there are some rare exceptions to this guarantee, such as when one or both matrices contain infinite or undefined elements. In these cases, the guarantee may not hold true and further analysis is needed.

5. How can this guarantee be used in real-world applications?

This guarantee can be used in a variety of real-world applications, such as in engineering, physics, and computer science. It allows us to model and solve complex systems and problems by representing them in the form of matrices and using mathematical operations to manipulate them.

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