Inductance of a coil in an AC L-R circuit

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The discussion focuses on the application of the formula tan(phi) = (wL - 1/wC)/R in an AC L-R circuit without a capacitor. It confirms that the formula can be simplified to tan(phi) = wL/R when only an inductor and resistor are present in series. The phase angle between current and voltage is influenced by the inductor's properties, as its voltage leads the current by 90 degrees. The conversation emphasizes the importance of circuit configuration, noting that the formula is valid only for series connections. The participants clarify that setting C=0 in the original formula is misleading without understanding the implications of circuit components.
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Does the formula tan (phi) = (wL - 1/wC)/R work without a capacitor? Can I turn it into tan (phi) = wL/R instead? I don't know what formula to use to find the inductance of an inductor in this question:

A voltage source V = 160V sin (100t) is connected in series with an inductor and a 17.0 ohm resistor. The phase angle between the current and the voltage is 1.05 rad. Find:

a) the inductance of the coil, and
b) the average power consumption of a circuit.
 
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ToxicBug said:
Does the formula tan (phi) = (wL - 1/wC)/R work without a capacitor? Can I turn it into tan (phi) = wL/R instead?

Yes you can. The only reason it is wL-1/wC is because when a capacitor is present it's phasor is in the opposite direction due to the opposite phase difference it produces. That is, an inductor's voltage leads the current by 90 degrees while the capacitor's voltage lags the current by 90 degrees.
 
Careful!
You're adding Voltages here, so the formula only applies if the LCR is in *series*!
Not having a break in the wire where the capacitor used to be means V=0 there.
Sometimes devices are placed in parallel, and the formula does not apply.
 
yeah but he said it was in series.
 
I thought it would be helpful to give a couple of clues
as to why you don't set C=0 in that "formula".
 
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