Ensemble Definition and 105 Threads
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I Minimal vs Instrumental vs Ensemble
I've recently had a look back at the review by Home and Whitaker as well as Asher Peres's book "Quantum Theory: Concepts and Methods". Both "minimal interpretation" and "ensemble interpretation" refer to categories of interpretations rather than interpretations themselves. Specifically, you can...- Morbert
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- Ensemble Interpretations
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I Statistical ensemble in phase space
Hi, I've a question about the concept of ensemble is statistical physics. Take a conservative system in a given macrostate (e.g. with a given energy): there will be a number of phase space's microstates compatible with the given macrostate. If I understand it correctly, basically the...- cianfa72
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- Ensemble Statistical mechanics Statistical physics Statistical thermodynamics Thermodaynamics
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Ensemble vs. time averages and Ashcroft and Mermin Problem 1.1
The question is as seen below: My attempt (note that my questions are in bold below) is below. Please note that I am self-studying AM: (a) By the independence of any interval ##dt## of time and time symmetry, we expect these two answers are the same (Is there any way to make this rigorous?)...- EE18
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- Ensemble Probability Solid state physics Stochastic processes Time
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Canonical ensemble <(Delta E)^3> expression
I try involving differentiating ^2 but I get an expression of different proportionality.- GrandsonOfMagnusCarl
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Expression
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I Concept of Thermal Equilibrium in the Context of Canonical Ensemble
Canonical ensemble can be used to derive probability distribution for the internal energy of the closed system at constant volume ##V## and number of particles ##N## in thermal contact with the reservoir. Also, it is stated that the temperature of both system and reservoir is the same, i.e...- Dario56
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- Canonical ensemble Concept Ensemble Equilibrium Statistical thermodynamics Thermal Thermal equilibrium
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I How Can Internal Energy of the Canonical Ensemble Change (Fluctuate)?
Canonical ensemble is the statistical ensemble which is applicable for the closed system in contact with the reservoir at constant temperature ##T##. Canonical ensemble is characterized by the three fixed variables; number of particles ##N##, volume ##V## and temperature ##T##. What is said is...- Dario56
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- Canonical ensemble Change Energy Ensemble Internal Internal energy Microstates Statistical thermodynamics Thermodynamics
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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I Derivation of the Canonical Ensemble
One of the common derivations of the canonical ensemble goes as follows: Assume there is a system of interest in the contact with heat reservoir which together form an isolated system. Heat can be exchanged between the system and reservoir until thermal equilibrium is established and both are...- Dario56
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- Canonical ensemble Derivation Ensemble Partition function Statistical thermodynamics
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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Derivation of Boltzmann Factor via Reservoir Method (canonical ensemble)
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/schwartz/files/7-ensembles.pdf https://mcgreevy.physics.ucsd.edu/s12/lecture-notes/chapter06.pdf On page 3 of both the notes above, the author merely claims that $$P \propto \Omega_{\text{reservoir}}$$ But isn't $$P \propto...- yucheng
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- Boltzmann Canonical ensemble Derivation Ensemble Method
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I Connecting the microcanonical with the (grand) canonical ensemble
I'm trying to sort out how the microcanonical picture is connected to the canonical and the grand canonical. If I consider a Helium gas, not necessarily with low density, in an isolated container (fixed energy and particle number) I can use the microcanonical ensemble to arrive at the...- Philip Koeck
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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A The wave-function as a true ensemble
"We argue that the ψ-ontic/epistemic distinction fails to properly identify ensemble interpretations and propose a more useful definition. We then show that all ψ-ensemble interpretations which reproduce quantum mechanics violate Statistical Independence." https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.02676- bohm2
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- Ensemble
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I Looking for materials about ensemble average
Hello. I am looking for some materials related to the ensemble average. Specifically, suppose there is a function ##A(x)## satisfying a Gaussian white noise $$\left < A(x)A(x') \right > =A_0^2\exp \left ( -\frac 1 {L^2}(x-x')^2\right )$$ where the average is taken over an ensemble. Now I need...- Haorong Wu
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- Average Ensemble Materials
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A QM is Feynman path ensemble - is QFT Feynman field ensemble?
While classical mechanics uses single action optimizing trajectory, QM can be formulated as Feynman ensemble of trajectories. As in derivation of Brownian motion, mathematically it is convenient to use nonphysical: nowhere differentiable trajectories - should it be so? Can this connection be...- Jarek 31
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- Ensemble Feynman Field Path Qft Qm
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I The Ensemble Interpretation and the Double Slit Experiment
I am a big fan of Ballentine's book on QM and was reading the discussions about the Ensemble Interpretation. Although, I am not an expert on these matters I reject the idea of the wave function collapse as a fundamental postulate of QM. Instead, I've come to the conclusion that we don't...- jbergman
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- Double slit Double slit experiment Ensemble Experiment Interpretation Slit
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A Is the Ensemble Interpretation Inconsistent with the PBR Theorem?
[Moderator's note: Spun off from another thread due to topic and subforum change.] I think Ballentine's interpretation is ruled out by the PBR theorem. Maybe we could discuss that?- Demystifier
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- Ensemble Interpretation Theorem
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I Help with an ideal gas canonical ensemble partition function integral
Where does the volume even come from? Any help would be appreciated!- AndreasC
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Function Gas Ideal gas Integral Partition Partition function
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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I Born rule in classical Ising model: Feynman -> Boltzmann ensemble?
Quantum mechanics is often said to be equivalent with Feynman path ensemble, which "after Wick rotation" becomes Boltzmann path ensemble, also called euclidean path integrals (popular for numerical calculations), or random walk/diffusion MERW (maximal entropy random walk). But Boltzmann path...- Jarek 31
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- Boltzmann Born rule Classical Ensemble Feynman Ising model Model
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Microcanonical ensemble generalized pressure
In the discussion of the pressure in macrocanonical ensemble, I found in textbook that: ##dW = \bar p dV## (##dW## is in fact d_bar W, yet I can't type the bar) The derivation goes like: ##\bar p = \frac{1}{Z} \sum_{r} e^{-\beta E_r} (-\frac{\partial E_r}{\partial V}) = ... = \frac{1}{\beta}...- Mayan Fung
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- Ensemble generalized Microcanonical ensemble Pressure Statisical mechanics
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- Forum: Mechanics
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A special case of the grand canonical ensemble
In addition to the homework statement and considering only the case where ##U= constant## and ##N = large## : Can we also consider the definition of chemical potential ##\mu## and temperature ##T## as in equations ##(1)## and ##(2)##, and use them in the grand partition function? More...- Ted Ali
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Statisical mechanics Thermodaynamics
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Why is the entropy calculated differently in the microcanonical ensemble?
I have a problem to understand why this problem is microcanonical ensemble problem? And why entropy is calculated as S(E,N,V)=\ln \Gamma(E,N,V) When in microcanonical ensemble we spoke about energies between ##E## and ##E+\Delta E##.- LagrangeEuler
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- Ensemble Microcanonical ensemble
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Canonical ensemble and Force on the Walls of a box
Hi everyone, this is my first message after presentation so please be merciful if the notation is somewhat messy. Here's my attempt at a solution: As for points 1) and 2) I used the definition of partition function $$Z = \frac{1}{h^{3N}} \int e^{-\beta \mathcal{H}} d^3p d^3q$$ and the fact that...- Jacques_Leen
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- Box Canonical ensemble Ensemble Force
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I Questions about ensemble interpretation of QM
I've been reading up on the ensemble interpretation (aka statistical interpretation) of QM and it's making a bit more sense to me that it did on the onset, but I still have some questions about how it is consistent with experimental observations of various QM experiments, especially...- soothsayer
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- Ensemble Interpretation Qm
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A Liouville's theorem and time evolution of ensemble average
With the Liouville's theorem $$\frac{{d\rho }}{{dt}} = \frac{{\partial \rho }}{{\partial t}} + \sum\limits_{a = 1}^{3N} {(\frac{{\partial \rho }}{{\partial {p_a}}}\frac{{d{p_a}}}{{dt}} + \frac{{\partial \rho }}{{\partial {q_a}}}\frac{{d{q_a}}}{{dt}})} = 0$$ when we calculate the time evolution...- Jeremy1986
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- Average Derivative calculus Ensemble Evolution Statistical mechanics Theorem Theoretical mechanics Time Time evolution
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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I Relational Hidden Variables (Real ensemble or thermal?)
Smolin latest book about the quantum is quite interesting. Its called "Einstein Unfinished Revolution: Search for What Lies Beyond the Quantum" and he has a new theory or interpretation. Id like to know what you make of it. The theory is very simple. Similar views produce QM. May i know how this...- jlcd
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- Ensemble Hidden variables Thermal Variables
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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I State functions in Grand Canonical Ensemble vs Canonical
Hi all, I am slightly confused with regard to some ideas related to the GCE and CE. Assistance is greatly appreciated. Since the GCE's partition function is different from that of the CE's, are all state variables that are derived from the their respective partition functions still equal in...- WWCY
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Function Functions Partition State
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Pressure in canonical ensemble
Greetings, I am having a hard time in understanding intuitively how pressure does not automatically stay constant in a canonical ensemble (=NVT ensemble). Pressure in a closed system is the average force of particles hitting against the wall of said system. The obvious way to manipulate...- SchroedingersLion
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Pressure
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- Forum: Mechanics
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SM:Parastatistics, grand canonical ensemble function
Homework Statement Hi I am looking at the question attached. Parts c and d, see below Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a SolutionFirst of all showing that ##<N> ## and ##<n_r>## agree I have ##Z=\Pi_r z_r ##, where ##Z## here denotes the grand canonical ensemble. So therefore we have ##...- binbagsss
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Function
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Statistical Mechanics-Limit in canonical ensemble
Homework Statement question attached. My question is just about the size of the limit, how do you know whether to expand out the exponential or not (parts 2) and 4)) Homework Equations for small ##x## we can expand out ##e^{x} ## via taylor series. The Attempt at a Solution Solutions...- binbagsss
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Statistical
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Canonical ensemble of a simplified DNA representation
Question Form the canoncial partition using the following conditions: 2 N-particles long strands can join each other at the i-th particle to form a double helix chain. Otherwise, the i-th particle of each strand can also be left unattached, leaving the chain "open" An "open" link gives the...- zexxa
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- Canonical ensemble Dna Ensemble Representation Statistical mechanics Statistical phyisics
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B Quark/Gluon Ensemble In Hadron
I know the PF rules regarding using only peer reviewed texts, but in this case, it's the only source I have access to and I'm not trying to promote the content in any way, really I'm just trying to understand if it is actually saying what it seems to be. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1303.3752...- _PJ_
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- Ensemble Hadron
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- Forum: High Energy, Nuclear, Particle Physics
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Canonical Ensemble Homework: P(ε) & No. of Microstates with Energy (E-ε)
Homework Statement The probability that the system has the energy ε i.e.P(ε). The system could have any energy between 0 and E. So, P(ε) = 1/(no. of possible systems with different energies) I cannot understand how P (ε) is related to the no. of possible microstates the reservior could have...- Pushoam
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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A Negative T for a spin 1 system in the canonical ensemble
I'm interested in an apparent inconsistency with the result for negative temperatures for a spin 1 system of N particles. The partition function of such a system is \begin{equation} Z=(1+2\cosh(\beta \,\epsilon))^{N} \end{equation} where each particle can be in one of three energy states...- Gabriel Maia
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble Negative Spin System Thermodinamics
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A Value of observable in statistical ensemble interpretation
The statistical ensemble interpretation (SEI) is supposed to be a minimal interpretation of QM with the smallest amount of philosophy, vagueness and controversy. Yet it turns out not to be the case. For instance Ballentine, the inventor of SEI, interprets Bell theorem as a strong evidence of...- Demystifier
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- Ensemble Interpretation Observable Statistical Value
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- Forum: Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
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Proof of expectation value for a dynamic observable
Homework Statement Show that: d<A(q,p)>/dt=<{A,H}>, where {A,H} is a Poisson Bracket Homework Equations Liouville theorem The Attempt at a Solution <A>=Tr(Aρ)⇒d<A>/dt=Tr(Adρ/dt)=Tr(A{H,ρ}) So, in order to get the correct result, Tr(A{H,ρ}) must be equal to Tr({A,H}ρ), but I don't think I can...- digogalvao
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- Dynamic Ensemble Expectation Expectation value Observable Proof Value
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I Decomposing a density matrix of a mixed ensemble
I'm trying to solve a problem where I am given a few matrices and asked to determine if they could be density matrices or not and if they are if they represent pure or mixed ensembles. In the case of mixed ensembles, I should find a decomposition in terms of a sum of pure ensembles. The matrix...- Gabriel Maia
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- Density Density matrix Ensemble Matrix Mixed Quantum mechanics Statisical physics
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Energy fluctuations in canonical ensemble
Homework Statement Consider an ensamble of particles that can be only in two states with the difference ##\delta## in energy, and take the ground state energy to be zero. Is it possible to find the particle in the excited state if ##k_BT=\delta/2##, i.e. if the thermal energy is lower than the...- lampCable
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Fluctuations
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Statistical Mechanics -- many copies of a canonical ensemble
Homework Statement Hi I am looking at the attached extract from David Tong's lecure notes on statistical phsyics So we have a canonical ensemble system ##S##, and the idea is that we take ##W>>1## copies of the system ##S##, and the copies of ##W## taken together then can be treated as a... -
I What Are the Key Differences Between Virtual and Ordinary Statistical Ensembles?
Please translate to English, so that it can be discussed here! I am primarily interested in how the virtual ensemble differs from an ordinary statistical ensemble, i.e., a large collection of actually identically prepared systems. The latter is the usual ensemble on which one can make...- A. Neumaier
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- Ensemble Statisical physics Statistical Virtual
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Plot Heat Capacity vs Temperature for a 2 state system microcananonical ensemble
Homework Statement I have ##C= NK_B (\frac{\epsilon}{K_B T})^{2}e^{\frac{\epsilon}{K_B T}}\frac{1}{(e^{\frac{\epsilon}{K_BT}}+1)^2} ## and need to sketch ##C## vs. ##T## Homework Equations See above The Attempt at a Solution I have ##C= NK_B (\frac{\epsilon}{K_B...- binbagsss
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- Capacity Ensemble Heat Heat capacity Plot State System Temperature
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A Measurement problem in the Ensemble interpretation
The ensemble interpretation asserts that QM is only applicable to an ensemble of similarly prepared systems and has nothing to say about an individual system and in this way, it seems, it can prevent the need for introducing the concept of wave-function collapse and so it may seem that there is...- ShayanJ
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- Ensemble Interpretation Measurement Measurement problem
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Understanding the Uniform Probability Distribution in Statistical Ensembles
Homework Statement Confused about what a statistical ensemble actually means. Why does the ensemble have to have a uniform probability distribution at equilibrium? [If my definition of an ensemble is correct] The Attempt at a Solution This is what I understand so far: [/B] For any given...- bananabandana
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- Definition Ensemble Statistical phyisics
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I Query about statistical ensemble and Liouville's Theorem
Hi, I was studying about the statistical ensemble theory and facing some problem to understand these concepts , I have understood that the ensemble is a collection of systems which are macroscopically identical but microscopically different . In some books they are called as systems with...- Shan K
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- Ensemble Statistical Theorem
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- Forum: Atomic and Condensed Matter
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I Particles from a thermal source
In the following, I want to consider both photons in a sharply focussed, monochromatic beam of light (''type P'') and electrons in an electron beam (''type E'') on the same footing. In the following, X is either P or E. If we only concentrate on the internal degrees of freedom, both kinds of...- A. Neumaier
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- Ensemble Foundations of physics Interpretation Particles Source Thermal
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How can energy vary in the canonical ensemble
I must be missing some point with regards to the canonical Distribution. Let us imagine I have a closed (to energy and matter) box full of ideal gas at temperature T. The total energy in the box equals hence E=3N2kT , where N is the number of molecules, k Boltzmann's connstant.Next, I allow the...- muzialis
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble
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Demon algorithm for microcanonical ensemble
I simulated a microcanonical ensemble of 10 ideal gas particles in one dimension and yielded the expected normal distribution of velocities. However, I still did not get how the algorithm works. The demon has non-negative energy content and the demon together with the system constitutes a closed...- gre_abandon
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- Algorithm Demon Ensemble Microcanonical ensemble Sampling
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Variation of system energy in Canonical Ensemble
A system is in contact with a reservoir at a specific temperature. The macrostate of the system is specified by the triple (N,V,T) viz., particle number, volume and temperature. The canonical ensemble can be used to analyze the situation. In the canonical ensemble, the system can exchange...- devd
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Internal energy System Variation
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Microcanonical ensemble question
So from what I understood from some coure notes I've been reading, a microcanonical ensemble is a situation where we have an isolated system in thermal equilibrium with a constant given N,V,E - particles, volume,total energy. I'm a bit confused. How I understood 'ensemble' is as a set of all...- Coffee_
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- Ensemble Microcanonical ensemble
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Helmholtz free energy in the canonical ensemble
Hello everybody :D My question is: given the distribution of the canonical ensemble, how do we get the helmoltz free energy? I think we can't use A = U-TS because we don't know how to write S. So what's the solution? Thanks- amedeo_fisi
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- Canonical ensemble Energy Ensemble Free energy Helmholtz Helmholtz free energy
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Static field from ensemble of photons
Hi, In QED it is stated that an EM field can be written as a sum of quantized oscillators (the photons). In "classical" Electrodynamics, it can also be shown that the EM field decomposes into normal modes. But both the quantized oscillators (in the Heisenberg picture) and the classical normal...- patdriess
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- Ensemble Field Photons Qed Static
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Grand canonical and canonical ensemble
Suppose that we have a system of particles (I am assuming a general system), and I want to find the ground state energy ##E_0##. We know that we can consider our system by canonical ensemble formalism OR by grand canonical ensemble so that ##H_G=H-\mu N## (in which ##H## is the Hamiltonian in...- mimpim
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- Canonical ensemble Ensemble
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Microcanonical ensemble density matrix
Ref: R.K Pathria Statistical mechanics (third edition sec 5.2A) First it is argued that the density matrix for microcanonical will be diagonal with all diagonal elements equal in the energy representation. Then it is said that this general form should remain the same in all representations. i.e...- Seban87
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- Density Density matrix Density operator Ensemble Matrix Microcanonical ensemble Quantum statistical mechanics
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- Forum: Quantum Physics