2 capacitors in series w/ a dielectric.

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When two capacitors in series are connected to a voltage source, charging one with a dielectric affects the charge distribution. The charge on the capacitor with the dielectric (C2) changes by a factor of K, while the charge on the unfilled capacitor (C1) remains constant. This is because the total potential difference across both capacitors must remain constant, adhering to charge conservation principles. The introduction of the dielectric alters the potential difference across C2, but not the charge on C1. Thus, the rules for capacitors in series apply both before and after the dielectric is inserted, leading to different results for each capacitor.
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Two capacitors (lets call them C1 and C2) in series are connected to a voltage source and charged. While still connected to the source one of them is filled with a dielectric (lets say C2 is filled). I know the charge on C2 will change by a factor of K because the source keeps the potential differences of each capacitor constant. But does the charge of the unfilled capacitor (C1) change?
This is more of a conceptual question.

EDIT: I got it. The charge on the unfilled capacitor remains the same.
I would delete the thread but i can't figure out how to do that.
 
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Iron Charioteer said:
I know the charge on C2 will change by a factor of K because the source keeps the potential differences of each capacitor constant.
It doesn't, it keeps the sum of the potential differences constant.
Iron Charioteer said:
The charge on the unfilled capacitor remains the same.
It does not.
Changing the charge on one capacitor but not on the other would violate charge conservation.
 
Hmmm... I guess i didn't know what i thought i knew. Haha!
So what you're saying is that the the charge on each capacitor remains the same but the potential difference of the capacitors changes; i.e.
Vtotal=V1+V2=q/C1+q/KC2.
So the rule for capacitors in series holds even when a dielectric is inserted into one of the capacitors?
 
Iron Charioteer said:
So what you're saying is that the the charge on each capacitor remains the same
I'm not saying that.
Iron Charioteer said:
So the rule for capacitors in series holds even when a dielectric is inserted into one of the capacitors?
They apply before and afterwards separately, sure. They'll give different results, however.
 
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