Solving Car Stopping Distances and Decelerations

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In summary, the conversation involves a student struggling to determine the deceleration needed to stop a car following another car, given different scenarios. The student eventually figures out the solution by calculating the total stopping distance and using the formula for deceleration. The student also learns how to convert from feet per second to g-force.
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Homework Statement



I have to write a program that will calculate the distance and/or deceleration needed to stop a car following another. My teacher gave us an example:

(1) When driving at a 60 mph, one covers 44 feet in 0.5 sec.
(2) At 1 g deceleration, one would need 121 feet to come to a stop.
(3) At 2 second tailing, with the 0.5-second reaction time, one would need to decelerate at about 15.3 ft/sec² (0.48 g)
(4) At 11' tailing, deceleration would be 44 ft/sec² (1.38 g)




Homework Equations



The first two are easy to understand.

Constant velocity formula is x = v t (where x = distance traveled, v = initial velocity, and t = time).

(This also means that your velocity is 88 feet per second if you are going 60 MPH)

I also know that the deceleration formula is v² = 2 a x (where v = velocity, a = deceleration, and x = distance traveled).

those answer the first two questions.


The second two are killing me because I cannot determine how he arrived at his answers. I realize that the 2-second tailing would be equivalent to 242 feet (at 60 mph) and the 0.5 reaction time would mean I lost 44 feet before I started to decelerate. The 11-foot tailing example has me totally baffled.


The Attempt at a Solution



I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START! I think I am thinking about it too much. For (3), I am thinking I need to remove the reaction time distance (44 feet) from my cushion distance (242 feet). That means I started constant deceleration at 198 feet. The guy in front of me will stop at 121 feet. I also know I need to stop in enough time that I do not touch him, so i am subtracting 1 from something. Do I need to stop in, say, 197 feet (242' cushion - 44' reaction time - 1' so I don't crack him) = 197' to come to a stop. But I don't think that is right.

From above, a = v²/2x = (88fps)²/2(198) = 7744 / 396 = 19.55555. I am WAY off!

(4) is impossible for my brain right now...
 
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Wait a minute...I think I need to do something with the stopping distance of the guy in front of me...

I am going 88 feet per second. I am behind him at two seconds. That would be 2 * 88 = 196 feet. (NOT 242 feet!)

It takes me 0.5 seconds to react, so I lose 44 feet right off the bat.

So that means I have 196 - 44 = 152 feet.

The guy in front stops is 121 feet.

Of course, if i decelerate exactly as quickly as him, I would also stop in 121 feet. That means I would be 152-121 = 31 feet behind him...but that is not the answer.

I need the MINIMUM deceleration.

Deceleration = Velocity^2 / (2 * Distance)

Deceleration = 88^2 / (2 * 31) = 7744 / 62 = 124.9999 ARRGGGHHHH!

I am missing something somewhere. I just need a little guidance.
 
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Okay, maybe I got NUMBER 3:

(1) When driving at a 60 mph, one covers 44 feet in 0.5 sec. (88 feet in 1.0 sec)
(2) At 1 g deceleration, one would need 121 feet to come to a stop.
(3) At 2 second tailing, with the 0.5-second reaction time, one would need to decelerate at about 15.3 ft/sec² (0.48 g)
(4) At 11' tailing, deceleration would be 44 ft/sec² (1.38 g)


The deceleration formula is v² = 2 a x (where v = velocity, a = deceleration, and x = distance traveled).

I need to find DECELERATION, so that formula is a = v² / 2x.

Velocity for a car going 60 MPH is 88 feet per minute.
I am also going 60 MPH but I need to stop, say, one foot behind the guy in front.
The distance I need to stop is 242 feet but I need to add 1, so I need 243 feet

v = 88
x = 243 feet

a = v² / 2x
a = (88^2) / (2 *243)
a = 7744 / 486
a = 15.93416

I am getting close...

His is something like 7744 / ((242*2) + 22) = 7744 / (484 + 22) = 7744 / 506 = 15.30435

Where does that 22 come from? Reaction time is 0.5 seconds. That means it took me 44 seconds before I started to brake. Why would I divide 44 by 2??

I think I am way off. I am trying but my logic is all wrong.

PLEASE! JUST A LITTLE NUDGE!

Thanks.
busbus
 
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I figured it out! Thanks for letting me spout off.

Basically:

Determine how much deceleration you need to stop if you were seconds behind the guy in front of you and it took you 0.5 seconds before you put on the brake and started to decelerate

Cushion_Time 2 seconds
Cushion_Distance 176 feet
Reaction_Time 0.5 seconds
Reaction_Time_Distance 44 feet
Distance 121 feet (Stopping distance)


I need to first calculate the Total_Stopping_Distance = (Cushion_Distance + Distance) - Reaction_Time_Distance:

Cushion_Distance 176 feet
Distance 121 feet
Reaction_Time_Distance 44 feet
Total_Stopping_Distance 253 feet


Next, use this formula to get DECELERATION:
Deceleration = Velocity^2 / (2 * Distance)

Velocity 88 Feet_Per_Second
Total_Stopping_Distance 253 feet
DECELERATION 15.30434783
g 0.47826087

The formula is:
DECELERATION = 88^2 / (2 * 253) = 7744 / 506 = 15.30435.
g = DECELERATION / 32 = 0.47826087---------------------------

Determine how much deceleration you need to stop if you were 11 feet behind the guy in front of you and it took you 0.5 seconds before you put on the brake and started to decelerate
Cushion_Distance 11 feet
Reaction_Time 0.5 seconds
Reaction_Time_Distance 44 feet = (Reaction_Time * Feet_Per_Second)
Distance 121 feet

Calculate the Total_Stopping_Distance =
(Cushion_Distance + Distance) - Reaction_Time_Distance
Cushion_Distance 11 feet
Distance 121 feet
Reaction_Time_Distance 44 feet
Total_Stopping_Distance 88 feet

Deceleration = Velocity 2 / (2 * Distance)

Velocity 88 Feet_Per_Second
Total_Stopping_Distance 88 feet
DECELERATION 44
g 1.375

DECELERATION = 88^2 / (2 * 88) = 7744 / 176 = 44
g = DECELERATION / 32

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So I got everything. I'm sorry if I did not explain myself right in here! I get the feeling I did a bad job explaining.

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I would approach this problem by first understanding the basic principles of motion and deceleration. The first two statements provide us with information about the initial velocity and distance traveled, which can be used to calculate the deceleration needed to stop the car. The equation v² = 2ax can be rearranged to solve for a, which gives us the deceleration needed to stop the car in a given distance.

For statement (3), we can use the distance of 242 feet and subtract the reaction time distance of 44 feet to get the distance in which the car needs to decelerate. This gives us a total distance of 198 feet. To ensure that the car does not touch the car in front of it, we can subtract an additional 1 foot, giving us a total distance of 197 feet. This means that the car needs to decelerate from 88 feet per second to 0 feet per second in 197 feet. Using the equation, a = v²/2x = (88 fps)²/2(197 feet) = 7744/394 = 19.66 ft/sec², we can calculate that the deceleration needed is approximately 19.66 ft/sec², which is equivalent to 0.62 g.

For statement (4), we can use the same approach as above, but with a total distance of 11 feet. This gives us a deceleration of approximately 44 ft/sec², which is equivalent to 1.38 g.

In summary, as a scientist, I would approach this problem by using the basic principles of motion and deceleration to calculate the required deceleration for the given distances and velocities. I would also take into account additional factors, such as reaction time and distance between cars, to ensure a safe and accurate calculation.
 

1. What is the formula for calculating car stopping distance?

The formula for calculating car stopping distance is: stopping distance = initial velocity2 / (2 x deceleration).

2. What factors affect a car's stopping distance?

Several factors can affect a car's stopping distance, including the car's initial velocity, the road conditions (e.g. dry versus wet), the condition of the tires and brakes, and the driver's reaction time.

3. How can I decrease my car's stopping distance?

To decrease your car's stopping distance, you can ensure that your tires and brakes are in good condition, maintain a safe driving speed, and leave enough space between your car and the car in front of you. You can also improve your reaction time through defensive driving techniques and avoiding distractions while driving.

4. What is the difference between braking and deceleration?

Braking is the action of applying the brakes to slow down or stop a car, while deceleration is the process of decreasing the car's speed. Braking is a type of deceleration, but deceleration can also occur through other means, such as taking your foot off the gas pedal or encountering air resistance while driving.

5. How does the weight of a car affect its stopping distance?

The weight of a car can significantly affect its stopping distance. A heavier car will require more force to decelerate, resulting in a longer stopping distance. This is why it's important to properly distribute weight in a car and not overload it, as it can impact the car's handling and stopping ability.

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