2 particles in an infinite quantum well

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of two identical spin-1/2 particles in an infinite quantum well, specifically focusing on the application of first-order perturbation theory to determine the perturbed energy due to an interaction modeled by a Dirac delta function. The original poster seeks guidance on constructing the wave function for the system and calculating the perturbation effect.

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  • Participants discuss the need to establish whether the particles are identical and how this affects the symmetry of the wave function. There are mentions of using degenerate perturbation theory and the implications of anti-symmetrical wave functions on energy shifts.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing insights into the wave function construction and the application of perturbation theory. There is an acknowledgment of different states with the same energy and the implications of particle spin on the overall wave function. Some participants express satisfaction with the guidance received, while others indicate further considerations are needed.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to identical particles and the effects of their spin on the wave function. The discussion includes references to specific mathematical forms of the wave functions and the nature of the interaction potential.

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If we have 2 particles in ground state in an infinite quantum well of length L (one-dimetion). Suppose then that the unperturbed energy is two times the ground energy of only one particle in an infinite qunatum well of length L.

Then I want to use first order perturbation theory to find the perturbed energy if the perturbation is A*d(x2-x1) (diracs-delta function), interaction between the particles or something, where A is a constant.

How do I construct the wave equation for this system en how do I calculate the perturbation?

I have tried with various linear combinations with no convincing success.
 
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Hi Joqe!

First of all you have to find the wave function of the two-particles system.
Do you know if there are identical or not? This condition and the spin of
each particle give it to you if the wave function will be symmetrical or
anti-symmetrical. Then you can use perturbation theory to found the value

[tex]<\Psi_{12}|A\delta(x_{1} - x_{2})|\Psi_{12}>[/tex]
 
Hi criz.corral! Thank you for your kind answer.

Yes the particles are indeed identical and have spin 1/2.

As for the perturbation, a friend of mine suggested that I should ues degenerat perturbation theory, which I'm not familliar with and I don't see why I cannot use that you have suggested.

Later I'm supposed to answer why the anti-symmetrical wave functions doesn't give any shift of the energy. And what the total spin quantum numer S is.
 
Hi again Joqe:

Roughly speeking, first order degenerate perturbation theory diagonalizes
your Hamiltonian. The eigenfunctions are your correction to the wave
function and the eigenvalues to the energy. In this case you may use it,
because you have two different states with the same energy. Particle
1 on [tex]n_{1}=1[/tex] and spin "up" and particle 2 on [tex]n_{2}=1[/tex] and
spin "down". There are different states but with the same energy. But, if you
see, you doesn't have the problem, because you interaction is diagonal.
I think that you doesn't have any problem to calculate:

[tex]<\Psi_{12}|A\delta(x_{2}-x_{1})|\Psi_{12}>[/tex]

for your energy shift

Now, we still have the wave function problem. How we found it?

If there are Fermions (half-integer spin) you know that the total wave function
have to be Anti-symetric. But, this gave us two system configuration.

[tex]\Psi_{n_{1},n_{2}}^{AS}(x_{1},x_{2}) = \Phi^{AS}(x_{1},x_{2})\chi^{S}(S_{1},S_{2})[/tex]

or

[tex]\Psi_{n_{1},n_{2}}^{AS}(x_{1},x_{2}) = \Phi^{S}(x_{1},x_{2})\chi^{AS}(S_{1},S_{2})[/tex]

Where [tex]\chi^{AS}[/tex] is the triplet state for the two 1/2 spin particles
and [tex]\chi^{S}[/tex] is the singlet state. And:

[tex]\Phi^{AS}\equiv\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(\psi_{n_{1}}(x_{1})\psi_{n_{2}}(x_{2}) - \psi_{n_{1}}(x_{2})\psi_{n_{2}}(x_{1}))[/tex]

[tex]\Phi^{S}\equiv\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(\psi_{n_{1}}(x_{1})\psi_{n_{2}}(x_{2}) + \psi_{n_{1}}(x_{2})\psi_{n_{2}}(x_{1}))[/tex]

Are the spatial part of your total wave function

The interaction potential [tex]A\delta(x_{2} - x_{1})[/tex] doesn't depends of the
spin part of the wave function. When you calculate:

[tex]<\Psi^{AS/S}|A\delta(x_{2} - x_{1})|\Psi^{AS/S}> = <\psi^{AS/S}|A\delta(x_{2} - x_{1})|\psi^{AS/S}><\chi^{AS/S}(S_{1},S_{2})|\chi^{AS/S}(S_{1},S_{2})> = <\psi^{AS/S}|A\delta(x_{2} - x_{1})|\psi^{AS/S}>[/tex]

Because the spin parts are orthogonal.

Note what happens when [tex]n_{1}=n_{2}=1[/tex] you only have [tex]\Phi^{S}[/tex]
because the anti-symmetrical part annihilates. Then:

[tex]\Phi^{S}(x_{1},x_{2})=\frac{2}{L}Sin(\frac{\pi x_{1}}{L})Sin(\frac{\pi x_{2}}{L})[/tex]


Sorry about my english, I'm still learning.

Cordially

Cristóbal.
 
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Hi again criz.corral!

Thank you so much, I think you had a terrific answer and everything is sorted out in a sens. Still somethings to consider but I'm very pleased with your answer.

Thank you again.
Joqe
 

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