3 phase vs 1 phase generator

In summary, the conversation is about trying to find a mathematical proof for the efficiency difference between a 3 phase and 1 phase generator. The speaker has tried to calculate the internal copper losses but has not been able to find an answer. The idea of a more continuous power output and the potential for a higher peak current in a single winding is mentioned as a possible reason for the efficiency difference. The conversation also touches on the benefits of a three phase alternator for producing DC output.
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So I have been trying to figure out the actual advantages that a 3 phase generator has over a 1 phase generator. I have been trying to find a mathimatical proof as to why 3 phase is more efficient. I have looked everywhere and have not been able to find an answer. I know how to prove that 3 phase is better than 1 phase transmission wise, but have not been able to show the internal advantages.

I have tried calculating the internal copper losses in the coils of a three phase and one phase generator, with the same number of coils, and I get the same copper loss for both types of generators... I am lost.
Can anyone give me mathematical proof that shows the difference in efficiency between a 3 phase and 1 phase generator?

Thanks
 
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I guess the power output is more continuous (being the sum of the instantaneous VXI for all three phases). Would that not suggest that the peak current in a single winding would need to be more (√3 times as much,possibly)? That could be a reason for a difference in efficiency.
You certainly get a much better deal out of a three phase alternator when you want to rectify its output to produce DC. But I realize that's not a majority case.
 

What is the difference between a 3 phase and 1 phase generator?

A 3 phase generator has three sets of windings, while a 1 phase generator only has one set of windings. This means that a 3 phase generator can produce three separate alternating currents, while a 1 phase generator can only produce one.

Which type of generator is more efficient?

In general, a 3 phase generator is more efficient because it can produce more power with less material. This is because the three sets of windings can work together to produce a smoother output, while a 1 phase generator has to work harder to produce the same amount of power.

Can a 3 phase generator be used for single phase applications?

Yes, a 3 phase generator can be used for single phase applications by connecting only one of the three sets of windings. However, this may decrease the overall efficiency of the generator.

What are the advantages of using a 3 phase generator?

There are several advantages to using a 3 phase generator, including higher efficiency, smoother power output, and the ability to power larger loads. Additionally, 3 phase motors tend to be smaller and more reliable than their 1 phase counterparts.

Are there any disadvantages to using a 3 phase generator?

The main disadvantage of a 3 phase generator is the initial cost, as they tend to be more expensive than 1 phase generators. Additionally, 3 phase generators require more complex wiring and may not be suitable for smaller, single phase applications.

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