30º above the horizontal with initial velocity problem

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The problem involves a basketball player throwing a ball at an angle of 30º above the horizontal with an initial velocity of 29.4 m/s, and the participants are discussing how to determine the horizontal distance the ball travels.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to calculate the time of flight and the horizontal distance using various equations related to projectile motion. There is discussion about the vertical component of the initial velocity and its calculation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on calculating the time of flight and clarifying the meaning of the vertical component of initial velocity. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the equations to use for horizontal distance.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the symmetry of projectile motion and the need to clarify the conditions for calculating time and distance. Some participants express uncertainty about the terminology and concepts involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement



A basketball player throws a ball at an angle of 30º above the horizontal. If the ball in has an initial velocity of 29.4 m/s, how far does it travel?

Homework Equations



Vyf^2 = Vyi^2 + 2(Ay)(Dy) solve for Dy and get

[Vyf^2 - (Vyi^2)] / (2(Ay)) = Dy

The Attempt at a Solution



0 - (29.4sin30)^2 / (2(-9.8)) = 11.025

29.4sin30 = 14.7 and then 14.7^2 = 216.09 and then 0 - 216.09 is -216.09/(2(-9.8)) = 11.025
 
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'how far does it travel' refers to a horizontal distance. First start by computing the time of flight.
 
Okay so my new attempt is Vyf = Vyi + AyT

0 = 29.4 + -9.8t

-29.4 = -9.8t

3 = t

So my time is 3, now just don't know what equation to use
 
Nexion21 said:
Okay so my new attempt is Vyf = Vyi + AyT

0 = 29.4 + -9.8t

-29.4 = -9.8t

3 = t

So my time is 3, now just don't know what equation to use
Check your value for [itex]v_{yi}.[/itex]
 
Sorry that this is going to seem hopeless but I just started taking an online course... What exactly does Vyi stand for? I thought it was the initial velocity in the vertical direction but that must be wrong
 
Nexion21 said:
Sorry that this is going to seem hopeless but I just started taking an online course... What exactly does Vyi stand for? I thought it was the initial velocity in the vertical direction but that must be wrong
You are correct, [itex]v_{yi}[/itex] is the vertical component of initial velocity. It is given by [itex]v_{yi} = v_i\,\sin\theta.[/itex]
 
Ooh sinθ is with it. So vyi = 14.7, which would mean t = 1.5

After that I tried using the dx = vx * t equation but that didn't work. What is the formula to solve for horizontal distance?
 
What you have found is the time to the apex of the trajectory. To find the time for the whole flight, either multiply your time by 2, (valid because of symmetry of flight and constant horizontal component of velocity) or redo the whole calculation using the condition, [tex]v_{yi}\hat{y} = -v_{yf}\hat{y}[/tex]
Edit: To clarify, the vertical component of final velocity (when the ball lands back to the ground) is equal in magnitude but opposite in direction to the vertical component of initial velocity.
 
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