3dim Poincare Algebra - isl(2,R)

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The discussion revolves around the Poincaré algebra, specifically the notation isl(2, R) and its relationship to sl(2, R) and R^3. Participants explore the dimensions and structure of this algebra, including its interpretation in the context of three-dimensional space.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the notation isl(2, R) and seek clarification on its meaning and context.
  • Others assert that the Poincaré algebra is ten-dimensional, while one participant corrects themselves to specify they are referring to the three-dimensional case.
  • There is a discussion about whether sl(2, R) + R^3 represents a Lie algebra or a vector space, with assumptions made about the nature of the direct sum.
  • One participant proposes that sl(2, R) might be isomorphic to o(2,1) and discusses the implications of this in the context of Lorentz transformations and translations.
  • Another participant mentions that sl(2, R) is isomorphic to so(2,1), indicating a potential connection to the structure being discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the notation and structure of the Poincaré algebra, with no consensus reached on the interpretation of isl(2, R) or the dimensionality of the algebra in question.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions and relationships between the algebras mentioned, as well as the nature of the direct sum versus direct product in this context.

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The Poincare algebra is given by isl(2, R) ~ sl(2,R) + R^3. What exactly does the i stand for?
Thanks a lot in advance!
 
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I have never seen a notation ##isl(2,\mathbb{R})##. Can you give some more background? And what does ##sl_2 + \mathbb{R}^3## mean? And as far as I know, the Poincaré algebra is ten dimensional.
 
fresh_42 said:
I have never seen a notation ##isl(2,\mathbb{R})##. Can you give some more background? And what does ##sl_2 + \mathbb{R}^3## mean? And as far as I know, the Poincaré algebra is ten dimensional.
I'm sorry, my statement was incorrect. You are right about the Poincare algebra. I meant the Poincare algebra in 3dim (not 4dim) space and not the dimension of the Lie algebra. by sl(2,R) + R^3 the direct sum of the special linear algebra sl(2, R) and R^3 is denoted
 
bob2 said:
I'm sorry, my statement was incorrect. You are right about the Poincare algebra. I meant the Poincare algebra in 3dim (not 4dim) space and not the dimension of the Lie algebra. by sl(2,R) + R^3 the direct sum of the special linear algebra sl(2, R) and R^3 is denoted
In this case my question is: ##sl(2,\mathbb{R}) \oplus \mathbb{R}^3## as a Lie algebra or simply the vector space? I assume ##isl(2,\mathbb{R})## is simply an abbreviation the author of your source uses for this (presumably Lie algebra) sum. And I further assume that it is not a direct product, but an indirect, i.e. I suppose ##sl(2,\mathbb{R})## to act non-trivially on ##\mathbb{R}^3##.
If you can write down this action, you will get the multiplications in it.
And by the way, this one is six dimensional.
 
Let me make another guess. ##sl(2,\mathbb{R}) ## might formerly have been ##o(2,1)## which (I don't know without proving it) is isomorphic to ##sl_2##. So if you consider Lorentz transformations plus translations on ##\mathbb{R}^3 \cong \mathbb{R}^{2,1}## and call this algebra ##isl_2##, then it makes sense to write ##isl_2 \cong sl_2 \ltimes \mathbb{R}^3## or sloppy ##isl_2 \text{ ~ } sl_2 + \mathbb{R}^3##
 
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sl(2,R) as I remember is isomorphic to so(2,1). Thanks so much for your reply- this way of interpreting it makes sense. Sorry, that I am replying so late- I thought I had already replied
 

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