A 1600 kg jet engine is fastened to the fuselage of a passenger jet

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The problem involves a 1600 kg jet engine attached to a passenger jet, focusing on the forces acting on the bolts securing the engine during different conditions: while stationary and during upward acceleration due to turbulence.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces on the bolts under different conditions, questioning the reasoning behind adding gravitational acceleration to upward acceleration during turbulence.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide insights into the relationship between acceleration and perceived weight, while others explore the implications of downward acceleration on the forces acting on the engine. The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being considered.

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Participants are examining the effects of different accelerations on the forces experienced by the bolts, with a focus on understanding the underlying physics principles without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



A 1600 kg jet engine is fastened to the fuselage of a passenger jet by just three bolts (this is the usual practice). Assume that each bolt supports one-third of the load. (a) Calculate the force on each bolt as the plane waits in line for clearance to take off. (b) During flight, the plane encounters turbulence, which suddenly imparts an upward vertical acceleration of 2.0 m/s2 to the plane. Calculate the force on each bolt now.

Homework Equations



F= ma


The Attempt at a Solution



I got the correct solutions for both (a) and (b)

(a) F=ma= (1600 kg)(9.8 m/s^2) = 15680 N/3= 5226.67 N

(b) F=ma= (1600 kg)(9.8 m/s^2 + 2.0 m/s^2) = 18880 N/3 = 6293.33 N
But on (b), I don't understand why the acceleration of gravity was added to the upward vertical acceleration of 2.0 m/s^2, isn't gravity pulling the plane down, and the 2.0 m/s^2 pulling it up, shouldn't it be 9.8-2.0?
 
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Because the plane is accelerating upward, the engine 'weighs' more due to its acceleration upward. The force due to an acceleration is in the opposite direction of the acceleration.
 


Ok. So the gravitational force ends up creating a greater force and because the acceleration is going upward, it is causing more force as well? What is the acceleration was -2.0 m/s^2 and the plane was being pulled downward, what effect would that have on the engine's force?
 


Think about this, when an elevator is accelerating upwards you feel heavier. The elevator is pulling you upwards but you feel a stronger downward force. Similarly when the elevator is accelerating downwards you feel lighter.
 


If the plane is accelerating downward, then the force due to acceleration points upward. The gravitational force is the same. It's the force due to acceleration of the plane that causes the change in the load of the bolts.

Gravitational force exists and is the same whether the plane is moving or stopped. The acceleration of the plane either adds to it or subtracts from it.
 

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