A block moving up a frictionless incline

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The discussion revolves around a block of mass 12 kg projected up a frictionless incline with an initial velocity of 8 m/s. Participants are exploring concepts related to potential energy, kinetic energy, and the work done by gravity during the block's motion from point A to point B and back to A.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate kinetic energy and potential energy, questioning the formulas needed to calculate these energies. Some participants suggest viewing the problem from an energy perspective, emphasizing the conversion of kinetic energy to potential energy as the block moves up the incline.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on how to approach the calculations. There is a focus on understanding the relationships between kinetic energy, potential energy, and work done, though no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations or methods.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of formulas and the interpretation of the work done by gravity, particularly in relation to the net displacement during the round trip.

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Homework Statement



A block of mass 12 kg is projected up a frictionless incline with an initial velocity of 8m/s. It just reaches a point B and then slides down again.

A) what is the potential energy of the block at B if its potential energy at A is taken as zero?

b) what is the vertical height h of B above A?

c)what is the total amount of work done on the block by the force of gravity during the round trip from A to B and back again to A?



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I 've thought of a few ideas:

its equal to the initial velocity
converted into enery
cant remember the formula that makes velocity into kinetic energy
but EK = EP

but I don't really know how to do this question at all.

I think its about the equations of motion?

thanks for any help
 
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Don't jumble up your ideas...

First see the problem from the energy point of view: When you project a particle with a given velocity up an frictionless inclined plane, you provide some kinetic energy to it (=1/2mv2). This K.E will be continuously converted into potential energy (=mgh) as the body moves upwards, and at some point it will stop when whole of its K.E has been converted to P.E. So you can definitely determine the height to which it will move and answer the following questions thereafter.

Hope you understood how to get through the question!
 
Mandeep Deka said:
Don't jumble up your ideas...

First see the problem from the energy point of view: When you project a particle with a given velocity up an frictionless inclined plane, you provide some kinetic energy to it (=1/2mv2). This K.E will be continuously converted into potential energy (=mgh) as the body moves upwards, and at some point it will stop when whole of its K.E has been converted to P.E. So you can definitely determine the height to which it will move and answer the following questions thereafter.

Hope you understood how to get through the question!

thanks for your reply!

ok, so according to your response,

using (=1/2mv2), I get, 0.5 x 12 x 6sq. = 384 joules

is that how the first question is meant to be worked out?

if so, then you substitute 384 into mgh? and that's how you get the 2nd question?

I did that and using MGH for question 2 I have: 384joules = mgh. m=12 g=9.81 h=the unknown

so 384/12/9.81=3.26.

is that how its supposed to be?
 
can anyone help and do this 3rd question?
 
physicx_1 said:
can anyone help and do this 3rd question?
In part c, the particle returns back to A. So the net displacement is zero. Hence the work done should be...?
 

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