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The discussion centers around the feasibility of a brachistochrone subway, initially deemed not cost-effective. Contributors explore the optimal design by suggesting the addition of a straight section between the curved halves to maximize speed while adhering to depth constraints. Calculations indicate that for a 1600m distance, the total travel time could be reduced to 34.6 seconds. A participant acknowledges the insights shared and proposes renaming the original blog post to reflect the modified approach. The conversation highlights the potential for innovative solutions in subway engineering.
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A Brachistochrone Subway Is Not a Cost-effective Idea

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Where is the point in the circle arcs?
You know the fastest way to get from A to B in general - let the deepest point of the brachistrochrone be at a depth of h. What is the ideal shape if you want to take a longer distance, but with depth limited to h? Well, just add a straight section in between the brachistrochrone halves. It will run at the maximal possible speed, and you already know the first and last part cannot be faster.

For the 1600m distance, you need 22.6 s for the curved sections, and 12 seconds for 800m at 66m/s, for a total of 34.6 seconds.
 
Well this was worth reading i learned something interesting today so thanks for writing this.
 
mfb said:
Where is the point in the circle arcs?
You know the fastest way to get from A to B in general - let the deepest point of the brachistrochrone be at a depth of h. What is the ideal shape if you want to take a longer distance, but with depth limited to h? Well, just add a straight section in between the brachistrochrone halves. It will run at the maximal possible speed, and you already know the first and last part cannot be faster.

For the 1600m distance, you need 22.6 s for the curved sections, and 12 seconds for 800m at 66m/s, for a total of 34.6 seconds.
Good observation. Thanks.
 
Following mfb's observation, the title of my blog should be changed to "Modified Brachistochrone Subway!". mfb has come up with the ideal solution and it resurrects the viability of the Brachistochrone in subway engineering!
 
Interesting topic.
 

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