A hypothetical machine (fluid expansion)

In summary, the conversation discusses the idea of using a shading system to regulate the temperature in a building using solar energy. However, it is pointed out that this approach may be counterproductive as it would decrease the efficiency of using solar energy. The conversation also mentions the use of similar systems in greenhouses and solar thermal energy projects, but suggests that a combination of a power plant and motor may be a better option. Apologies are also made for a misunderstanding of the original question.
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FermatPell
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Hello,

Imagine that we have a fluid heated up by solar energy (every day during sunlight). Due to higher temperature it would undergo thermal expansion and do some mehanical work while expanding, right? And during night it would cool down and hence compress and do some negative mechanical work. Now, my friend has an idea of constructing a shading system (practically a set of "shading units" that cover people from sun and open at day and close at night). What are the possible complications that might arise?
 
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Your friend is obviously thinking, which is always a good thing. In this case, however, his approach would be counterproductive. The most efficient use of solar energy would be based upon accumulating all heat or light available, which "shuttering" would decrease.
 
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Perhaps that's the point. Perhaps this invention is intended to keep houses cool by automatically closing shutters on windows in strong sunshine?

I think it might work but I suspect it would be hard to control the exact time at which the shutters open or close. Sunshine isn't allways a good measure of temperature either. Many countries have a lot of sunshine in winter when it's cold with snow on the ground. Do you want the shutters open or closed then? Open to allow heat in but closed if the sun is too bright?
 
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Also, the coefficients are thermal expansion (volumetric coefficents) are small numbers. Let's take for instance ethanol (which expands quite a lot) whose β=750*10^(-6) K^-1.

Do you agree that thermal expansion will be too negligible to produce any significant work, like closing/opening the shutters?
 
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With boiling fluids, this is the concept of solar thermal energy, and solar updraft towers use expanding air. Both have demonstration projects, but they are still experimental.

You can use them for shutters, too, but I would expect that the combination "power plant somewhere + motor where you need it" is usually better, apart from some simple systems like the greenhouse thing.
 
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They already use fluid cylinders on solar panel frames to track the sun and to open and close vents in green houses to maintain even temps. It would be easy to convet this to the operation of shutters to block the sun or to let the sun in for "passive" solar heating and cooling.
Paul
 
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I want to take this opportunity to apologize to Fermat for misunderstanding his/her original question. I took it to mean that the shutters were to be used as a "strobe" system to maximize the number of times that a photoreactive mechanism would be cycled.
 

1. What is a fluid expansion machine?

A fluid expansion machine is a hypothetical device that utilizes the expansion of fluids to perform mechanical work. It typically involves heating a fluid, such as water or steam, to generate pressurized steam or gas that can drive a turbine or piston, converting the thermal energy into mechanical energy.

2. How does a fluid expansion machine work?

A fluid expansion machine works by heating a fluid, which causes it to expand and increase in pressure. This high-pressure fluid is then directed to a turbine or piston, where it is allowed to expand and perform mechanical work. The resulting mechanical energy can be used to power machinery or generate electricity.

3. What are the potential applications of a fluid expansion machine?

A fluid expansion machine could potentially be used in a variety of applications, such as power generation, transportation, and industrial processes. It could also be used in renewable energy systems, such as geothermal power plants, where hot water or steam is readily available.

4. What are the advantages of a fluid expansion machine?

One of the main advantages of a fluid expansion machine is its potential for high efficiency. By using the expansion of fluids, it can convert a large amount of thermal energy into mechanical work. It is also a versatile technology that can be adapted for various applications and can use a wide range of heat sources, such as fossil fuels, renewable energy, or waste heat.

5. Are there any limitations or challenges to implementing a fluid expansion machine?

One of the main challenges of implementing a fluid expansion machine is the high cost of construction and maintenance. The technology also requires a reliable and constant heat source, which may not be feasible in all locations. Additionally, the efficiency of the machine may be affected by variations in the temperature and pressure of the fluid, which can be difficult to control.

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