A Physical Situation Which Physics Rules Collapse

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The discussion centers on scenarios where established physics laws, such as energy conservation, appear to fail or are inapplicable. Participants explore whether these situations arise from incomplete laws, the absence of applicable laws, or simply inaccessible parts of a system that prevent verification. Historical examples illustrate how apparent violations of physical laws have led to the discovery of new particles or theories, suggesting that such instances can prompt advancements in physics. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing the limitations of current laws and the potential for new understandings to emerge from these anomalies. Ultimately, the dialogue seeks clarity on how to mathematically describe situations where fundamental physics laws seem to break down.
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Whats the circumtances which physics rules collapse and don't work.Theres any explanation it to use mathematics. Here I don't mean singularity things.I know in singularity physics rules collapse I want to talk more generally.
 
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Do you mean a situation where the laws of physics are incomplete [i.e. we don't know the correct laws]?
Or do you mean a situation where the laws of physics do not apply [because no such laws exist for it]?
 
robphy said:
Or do you mean a situation where the laws of physics do not apply [because no such laws exist for it]?

This one . A situtation which we can't get energy conservation or these kind of things which we can say hundered per cent physics laws cannot work in that situation.Is there any way to desribe it mathematicly.
 
Quarlep said:
This one . A situtation which we can't get energy conservation or these kind of things which we can say hundered per cent physics laws cannot work in that situation.Is there any way to desribe it mathematicly.

I'm just looking for more clarity in what you are asking.

Consider the Law of Conservation of [total] Energy...
[for the sake of argument, let's say...] it holds in a certain situation...
but because some part of the system is inaccessible to us, we can't verify it or make [easy] use of it.
It's true but not helpful in solving a problem.
Is that what you mean?
 
we couldn't find energy conservation in a situation.Its a very important law in physics or , we found a situation which charges don't conserve.These laws are fundamental but they broken just know.Then Can we say "in this situation physics laws are broken" or don't work.
 
It has certainly been the case that some so-called "law" that we had accepted had been violated and thus had to dropped [or had its range of validity restricted] in favor of a better explanation of what was going on. Such turning points often point to new physics.

Here is a famous story... the history of the neutrino.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/particles/neutrino.html
Apparent violations of conservation laws were resolved by postulating a new particle, which was subsequently detected.

This may be enlightening...
"Richard Feynman - The Character of Physical Law -7 -Seeking New Laws"

(in written form: http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/character-physical-law )
 
Ok thanks for video
 
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