A problem from Artin's algebra textbook

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(a)Let H and K be subgroups of a group G. Prove that the intersection of xH and yK which are cosets of H and K is either empty or else is a coset of the subgroup H intersect K

(b) Prove that if H and K have finite index in G then the intersection of H and K also has finite index.

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The intersection of xH and yK is a subgroup of both H and K, then how to continue?
 
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The intersection of xH and yK is a subgroup of both H and K, then how to continue?
This is not true in general. If xH and yK are not subgroups, then neither contains the identity, so their intersection also doesn't contain the identiy. So it can't be a subgroup.

Moreover, in general xH \cap yK isn't even a subSET of H or K. xH and H are disjoint unless x \in H. Similarly for yK and K.
 
jbunniii said:
This is not true in general. If xH and yK are not subgroups, then neither contains the identity, so their intersection also doesn't contain the identiy. So it can't be a subgroup.

Moreover, in general xH \cap yK isn't even a subSET of H or K. xH and H are disjoint unless x \in H. Similarly for yK and K.
Sorry, I made some mistakes when I wrote the post. In fact, I mean the intersection of H and K is a subgroup of both H and K...Could U give me some tips to prove it?
 
If xH and yK have nonempty intersection, then there is an element g contained in both: g \in xH and g \in yK.

The cosets of H \cap K form a partition of G, so g is contained in exactly one such coset, call it a(H \cap K).

If you can show that a(H \cap K) is contained in both xH and yK then you're done.

Hint: both xH and yK are partitioned by cosets of H \cap K.
 
jbunniii said:
If xH and yK have nonempty intersection, then there is an element g contained in both: g \in xH and g \in yK.

The cosets of H \cap K form a partition of G, so g is contained in exactly one such coset, call it a(H \cap K).

If you can show that a(H \cap K) is contained in both xH and yK then you're done.

Hint: both xH and yK are partitioned by cosets of H \cap K.
Yeah...I get it. Thanks very much. In addition, how to prove part (b), that is how can I show that both H and K are partitioned by finite cosets of H \cap K... I appreciate your insightful answer!
 
the index of H in G is the number of cosets of H.

if this number is finite, then if it just so happened that H∩K was of finite index in H, we get:

[G:H][H:H∩K] cosets of H∩K in G in all, which would be finite.

can you think of a way to show that [H:H∩K] ≤ [G:K]? perhaps you can think of an injection from left cosets of H∩K in H to left cosets of K in G?
 
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