A problem on two dimensional kinematics

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A block with an initial velocity of 5 m/s slides up a frictionless incline at 20 degrees before coming to rest, with the expected distance being 3.73 m. The original poster attempted to calculate the distance using vertical and horizontal displacements but did not arrive at the correct answer. A more straightforward approach involves using conservation of energy, where the kinetic energy converts to gravitational potential energy at the highest point. The discussion highlights the importance of resolving forces correctly, particularly the components of gravity acting along and perpendicular to the incline. Ultimately, understanding these concepts is crucial for solving two-dimensional kinematics problems effectively.
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A block is given initial velocity of 5m/s up a frictionless 20 degrees incline. How far up the incline does the block slide before coming to rest?

The answer is 3.73m.
I set the coordinates to be perpendicular to the plane instead of parallel to the incline. I calculated the vertical and horizontal displacement and then use Pythagorean Theory to evaluate how far the car goes. But I did not get the expected answer, which is 3.73. Can anybody tell me what's wrong with my solusions?
 
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DeldotB said:
I can't read your writing but a MUCH easier way is to use conservation of energy. Think: at the top, the block is not moving, so all its K.E is converted to gravitational P.E

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But why we can use the velocity directly without resolving it into x and y directions? And since my classes haven't covered the conservation of energy, I would like to see what's going wrong with my answers.
 
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Winsy said:
But why we can use the velocity directly without resolving it into x and y directions? And since my classes haven't covered the conservation of energy, I would like to see what's going wrong with my answers.

v(y0)=v(0)sin20°=5m/s×sin20°=1.71m/s
since v(t)^2-v(y0)^2=2as,v(t)=0,a=-9.8m/s^2
h=v(y0)^2/2g=0.149
since a=(v(t)-v(0))/t ,t=v(t)-v(y0)/g=0.174s

v(x0)=v(0)×cos20°=4.7m/s
x=(v(xo)+v(t))×t/2=0.409m
s=√[x^2+h^2]=0.435m

That's what I've tried.
 
DeldotB said:
I can't read your writing but a MUCH easier way is to use conservation of energy. Think: at the top, the block is not moving, so all its K.E is converted to gravitational P.E

1/2mv^2=mgh the m's cancell, so you have v^2/2=gh which implies h=v^2/(2g) Sine = opposite/hypotenuse, so sin(20)=h/d so h=sin(20)d substituting that into the above eqn, v^2/(2g)=sin(20)d so d=v^2/(2gsin(20))=3.729 m

v(y0)=v(0)sin20°=5m/s×sin20°=1.71m/s
since v(t)^2-v(y0)^2=2as,v(t)=0,a=-9.8m/s^2
h=v(y0)^2/2g=0.149
since a=(v(t)-v(0))/t ,t=v(t)-v(y0)/g=0.174s
v(x0)=v(0)×cos20°=4.7m/s
x=(v(xo)+v(t))×t/2=0.409m
s=√[x^2+h^2]=0.435m
That's what I've tried.
 
Winsy said:
v(y0)=v(0)sin20°=5m/s×sin20°=1.71m/s
since v(t)^2-v(y0)^2=2as,v(t)=0,a=-9.8m/s^2
a is not -9.8 m/s^2 in this situation, because the normal force also has a vertical component.

I would suggest resolving gravity into it's components along the incline and perpendicular to the incline. Then work with the entire magnitude of velocity.
 
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