A rotating container injected with a liquid

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The problem involves a rotating cylindrical container with an initial angular velocity, into which a liquid is injected. The challenge is to determine the moment of inertia of the system after the liquid is added, considering the conservation of angular momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of conservation of angular momentum to relate the initial and final states of the system. Questions arise regarding the calculation of the moment of inertia of the liquid and the shape it takes within the container. There is uncertainty about how to handle the geometry of the liquid's surface and its dependence on the container's dimensions.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different approaches to calculate the moment of inertia, with some suggesting simplifications regarding the shape of the liquid. There is a recognition of the need for additional information, such as the height of the liquid, to proceed further. The discussion remains open with various interpretations being considered.

Contextual Notes

Constraints include the lack of information about the height of the liquid and the potential assumptions that can be made regarding the shape of the liquid in the container. Participants are questioning whether the dip in the liquid's surface is significant enough to affect calculations.

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Homework Statement


A massive cylindrical container of inner radius ##R## is rotating freely with an initial angular velocity ##w_0##. A liquid of density ρ is slowly injected into the container, until the container is fully filled except the center of the container. The angular velocity of the whole system reduces to ##w## after the injection. What is the container's moment of inertia, while the gravitational acceleration is ##g##?
rotating container.jpg


Homework Equations


The moment of inertia equation.


The Attempt at a Solution


I have no idea at the first place, could someone give me some advices?
 
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hi rbwang1225! :wink:

hint: use conservation of angular momentum (you know the density of the liquid is ρ) …

show us what you get :smile:
 
After I tried to solve the problem by angular momentum conservation, I got stuck on the problem of calculation the moment of inertia of the liquid.
##Iω_0=I'ω##,
where ##I## is the moment of inertia of the containerm and ##I'=I+I_{liquid}##.
I tried to calculate ##I_{liquid}=∫r^2dm##, but had a trouble in the shape of the liquid.
##\tan\theta=\frac{w^2r}{g}## The limit of ##r## is from the position ##r## on the curve line to ##R##, but there is a ##z## dependence of the position r. I don't know how to get the relationship.
However, my way might be in the wrong direction.
Could you give me some ideas?
rotating container2.jpg


Sincerely.
 
hi rbwang1225! :smile:
rbwang1225 said:
I tried to calculate ##I_{liquid}=∫r^2dm##, but had a trouble in the shape of the liquid.
##\tan\theta=\frac{w^2r}{g}## The limit of ##r## is from the position ##r## on the curve line to ##R##, but there is a ##z## dependence of the position r. I don't know how to get the relationship.

you'd have to do it by integration, slicing the liquid (!) into cylindrical shells of thickness dr :wink:

however, i wouldn't bother …

the question doesn't tell you how tall the container is, so i reckon you're entitled to assume that the dip in the middle is too small to matter, and that the water is just a cylinder :smile:

(or is the diagram supposed to be showing the dip actually reaching the bottom of the container? in that case, yes you need to integrate :confused:)
 
OK. Then suppose the liquid forms a cylinder, ##I_{liquid}=\frac{ρVR^2}{2}##.
But the problem becomes we have no height of the cylinder, how could I overcome this?

Sincerely.
 

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